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I know ya'll always question the sanity of using stock springs on performance shocks but I want to put to my OE springs back on. I lowered on an Eibach PRO kit with the koni sports but L.A. streets suck! The ride is terrible (yes even on a pro kit) for my daily commute.. Can I simply take off the eibachs and put the OE springs back on or do I need other parts?

 
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of course you can put the OEM springs back on. their specifially made for your car. i believe its ok to use the OE springs on yor koni yellow shocks too but you might as well throw the OEM shocks on too and save the koni yellows some good times..
if their THAT bad, and if u have warranty, honda will replace your suspension as long every suspension piece is OE.
hope that answers your question =|

 
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Little kown fact... a car will handle better on Performance shocks with stock springs then it will with performance springs on stock shocks.. So you should have no problem with konis on the stock springs, and the car will still handle pretty good.

 
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how much do the konis by themselves drop a vic?

 
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They wont.

 
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What about taking turns fast? I wasn't able to do this till I got my Sportlines. I mean I was able to do it, but it almost seemed as if my car was going to tilt. Will you be able to drive with stock springs and performance shocks as if you had "performance" springs on? If this the case, besides lowering your ride and giving it an agressive look, what's the point in getting a performance spring set then?

 
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Tilt isn't bad. My car hella tilts I had a hard time keeping my butt in my seat now I've gotten use to it. My car is stock everything. Except now I got my winter 14in steelies on actually these tires feel like they have more grip than my stock firestones on the stock ex rims. The car does give up eventually and the tires start to slip, but nothing to get worried about, just good darn userfriendly Nindoo induced understeer.

I wonder how much faster I could take turns with tokicos....

 
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Your going to have to tune your konis differently, and your going to have to adjust your driving style to get the most out of it. but the car should handle pretty well with the Konis and stock springs.

Yes your going to get more body roll, but the actual handling of the car shoudl be pretty good. Remember, Body roll is a secondary handling problem.. So pay more attention to how the car is actually handling rather then to how much the body is rolling. and tune the shocks accordingly...

 
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Zzyzx could it happen that if I replace my stock shocks with tokicos, that my car will understeer sooner? Or Stiffer shocks are always better?

 
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^^^He he, Nindoo induced understeer eh?
Well, with the new shocks and the Sportlines, I must say that I'm able to take curves faster than before and of course the new wider tires help as well. Just yesterday, I was minding my business when all of the sudden a Mercury Cougar tried to pass me at the begining of a nice big curve by my house. He he, needless to say, I accelerated and blew him away on the turn; after a while he just gave up. The guy looked at me like I was almost going to crash on the left side of the road cause I was going fairly fast, about 75 mph on that turn, but of course that did not happened. It was just a lot of fun. What can I say man, after a couple of suspenssion upgrades not even Mustangs can keep up with our 4 cilinder vics.

 
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You accelerated on the beginning of the turn. I slow down before the turn and slowly throttle after I hit the apex.

I want to learn how to trail brake. It sounded cool when Zzyzx mentioned but I don't really know what it is.

 
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The civic is under-dampend from the factory.. So in this case having a bit stiffer shocks is a good thing. Other wise, Yes there is such a thing as Over dampering a car. it happens all the time, especially with adjustible dampers. People tend to think that stiffer valving = better handling. when its really the difference in valving front to rear that allows you to alter the handling balance of the car.

and Trail Braking...
http://www.virtualracersedge.com/trail_braking.htm

nindoo, the reason cubanmike26 was able to accelerate as he was entering the turn was because the car wasnt at the cars limits of traction yet. (a good thing considering he was on the street).

 
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Thanks Zzyzx.

Your right we shouldn't be pushing ours cars on the street.

 
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ahhh, darn it, i'm guilty, I push my car hard on the corners too often on the street. I used to make my firestones scream all the time... but then again, those tires didnt have a high limit to them... so....

oh also, I have never really tried trailbraking but I knew about it a long time ago... anyway, in hairpin like turns, wuold it be more beneficial for cars with certain drivetrains (front drive rear drive etc. ) to use that technique?

 
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I have Tokico blues with Stock (oem) springs.
My car handles better than b4, but that's about it, ride feels just like stock, it just handles and take cornners better

 
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how about a bigger sway bar in the rear with the stock bar in front and stock springs and koni yellows... how'd that handle?

 
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actually the more responses I hear.. the more I'm rethinking going back to stock... however... Zyzyx's constant reassurance of how potentially good the stock spring/koni combo could be doesn't help either... It's not even so much the bumpiness that makes me wanna go back stock... but the damn tracking... I don't know if it's the 16 in tires or the spring rate of the eibachs... but the slightest groove tosses my tires in the other direction... And the konis are on barely a half turn from full soft....But I really like the roll reduction and better handling on turns...

 
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Tracking ushually has alot to do with Tire selection (Some tires track more then others) and alignment.

 
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its in da tires yo.

maybe some softer sided 15s would fix that and soften up the hits, then you could stay on your drop springs.

 
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what tire you running anyway?

 
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So stock springs / performance stocks should yield a somewhat stiffer ride?

I don't want to lower my sedan because the body kit scrapes as it is.

Just want a stiffer ride because I hate how the car is so bouncy.

 
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They're Yokohama YK420s I think... 205 55 16s... the compund does look a bit hard now that you mention it.. but I'm not an expert... I just thought it had a 'new' tire look to it... Could you recommend a different brand/softer brand within the same size 205/55?

tnx