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Old Nov 17, 2004
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can i fight this?

he wrote me up for window tinting. he didn't put any code or reference to what law i broke, what he did was x the other section and put, could not see occupants inside the car through side window tinting. in my state u cant tint the side two windows, but u can tint the back three. i dont kno how he could of seen my windows cuz he was looking the other way and i drove right by him behind. so yea... he didn't put the law i broke and he said i had 60% window tint on the ticket even tho he used his meter and it came up 15. but he did not write 15, he wrote 60 and in my state, there is not real number here in pennsylvania. he said it was 75, but theres no way it is. i remember my last ticket had the code and section i had broke, but this one had no code or nuttin, just said he cant see inside the car. is that ok?heres the law...
is this what he was refering to then?
No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any sun screening device or other material which does not permit a person to see or view the inside of the vehicle through the windshield, side wing or side window of the vehicle.
This subsection does not apply to:
A vehicle which is equipped with tinted windows of the type and specification that were installed by the manufacturer of the vehicle or to any hearse, ambulance, government vehicle or any other vehicle for which a currently valid certificate of exemption has been issued in accordance with regulations adopted by the department.
A vehicle which is equipped with tinted windows, sun screening devices or other materials which comply with all applicable Federal regulations and for which a currently valid certificate of exemption for medical reasons has been issued in accordance with regulations adopted by the department.
A certificate of exemption shall be issued by the department for a vehicle which is:
Registered in this Commonwealth on the effective date of this subsection and is equipped with a sun screening device or other material prohibited under paragraph (1) on the effective date.
Equipped with tinted windows, sun screening devices or other materials for a physical condition that makes it necessary to equip the motor vehicle with sun screening material which would be of a light transmittance or luminous reflectance in violation of this section.
(A) A certificate of exemption for medical reasons shall be issued only if the owner or registrant of the vehicle, or a person residing in the household of the owner or registrant who regularly drives or is driven in the vehicle, suffers from a physical condition determined by the department, in consultation with the Medical Advisory Board, to justify the exemption.
(B) Any person requesting an exemption for medical reasons shall have his physical condition certified to the department by a licensed physician or optometrist.
A certificate of exemption issued under this subsection shall be carried in the vehicle and displayed on request of a police officer.
Upon the sale or transfer of the vehicle to any person who does not qualify under paragraph (2)(ii), the exemption shall be null and void. Prior to the sale or transfer of an exempt vehicle, it shall be the sole responsibility of the owner or seller of a formerly exempt vehicle to remove all sun screening or other materials from the vehicle. At the time of the sale or transfer of a formerly exempt vehicle, the owner shall remove and destroy the certificate of exemption for physical reasons and provide the purchaser with a notarized statement setting forth the name and address of the owner or seller, the vehicle identification number, year and model, and the business entity and process used to remove the sun screening or other material.

(f) Exception.--This section does not apply to mobile recording equipment installed in a vehicle exclusively used for official police purposes.

he said if i took it off and went to court to fight it, i woudl still have to pay cuz i was in violation now, but the last time i got one, the person said i can either pay it or plea not guilty and take the tint off. any help would be good. this guy said i have to pay the ticket whether i take it off or not. is that right or was the other officer wrong? this guy was a big jerk too and he didn't even see my windows tinted, he just was suspecting they were. cuz he never was next to my car to see them, he was behind me and i asked how he could of seen me and i was like, ig uess u looked through ur rear view and could see that, but thats not even right.
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btw, im taking the tint off this week, just wondering about the citation. and yea i passed two cops after him and i had my windows down adn no problem. maybe just drive with them down i guess.
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hey man, I have been a police officer bro........what you want to do is take the tint off like you said you are going to do, bring in in to court with you , show the judge, and then the judge will have it thrown in the trash can. The officer is not the judge , you can get the fine dropped - bring the tint to court and plead guilty.....
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I heard somewhere where there were about to make it legal everywhere in the US to have your windows as dark as you want, you could paint them black if you wanted to. Someone was complaining, by saying you can't have your windows tinted really dark that was taking away your freedom.
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You need to fight that one... he can't see cuz he is blind... The meter said 15 and if that is legal you didn't break the law... This is why I have hardly any respect for cops...

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Originally Posted by k2001civicboy
I heard somewhere where there were about to make it legal everywhere in the US to have your windows as dark as you want, you could paint them black if you wanted to. Someone was complaining, by saying you can't have your windows tinted really dark that was taking away your freedom.
i doubt that is happening any time soon, we have a better chance of buying armor for our cars.
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that definately won't happen, an officer needs to be able to see into a vehicle , a traffic stop is very dangerous, there is no way I would walk up to a vehicle with black windows..I would approach with my hand on my firearm, and approach from the passenger side, somebody could be in their with a gun pointed right at you!
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but what I don't understand is why cops can have their windows tinted really dark
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because we are supposed to trust them. they are the 'good' guys.
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cops can do whatever they want (within reason). if you want that privelage, become one!
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don't they so tint in % light let in? So a 15 would be very dark and a 60 not so dark. Atleast that is the way it is here in Ohio
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^^^ that's how they do it here in tennessee

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