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Old Nov 14, 2004
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Yeah so... car won't start (video)

Got home around 2 am last night, it was snowing really bad. I always make sure I turn everything off before I get out, like lights and whatnot, so that reason is eliminated. Went to turn the car on this morning, turned it to ON for a few seconds, then turned the key, and it kept making the sound of trying to start, but never turned over. I don't know if it was because it was really cold last night. I wouldn't think that the battery or starter would be dead already, it's not even a year old!

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you sure you didnt leave anythign on that could of drained the battery over night?
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New battery and new plugs would really be all you can do in your case. I have an optima yellow and ngk iridium plugs. My car mostly starts in three cranks all the time when it's way below freezing.
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
you sure you didnt leave anythign on that could of drained the battery over night?
100% positive that I didn't. The explanation I provided above didn't really explain the situation very well. So I took a video of what is going on. To sum up, the guage cluster lights up, power everything works, lights work, keyless entry works, except the car won't start
My buddy just came over, and we tried to jump it, but this had no effect. It gave us a glimmer of hope for a split second when I tried to turn it over and it was trying, but then proceeded to do the same thing again
Anyways, here is a link to a video I made of what it is doing. It's only 1.25 MB, so please view it and let me know what you think it may be
I'm going to have it towed to Acura tomorrow, maybe they can figure out what's wrong with it
http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05...68D552CA90EE29

Another friend of mine suggested it may be the teeth on the starter skipping? Anyone have an opinion on that theory?
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100% positive that I didn't. The explanation I provided above didn't really explain the situation very well. So I took a video of what is going on. To sum up, the guage cluster lights up, power everything works, lights work, keyless entry works, except the car won't start
My buddy just came over, and we tried to jump it, but this had no effect. It gave us a glimmer of hope for a split second when I tried to turn it over and it was trying, but then proceeded to do the same thing again
Anyways, here is a link to a video I made of what it is doing. It's only 1.25 MB, so please view it and let me know what you think it may be
I'm going to have it towed to Acura tomorrow, maybe they can figure out what's wrong with it
http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05...68D552CA90EE29

Another friend of mine suggested it may be the teeth on the starter skipping? Anyone have an opinion on that theory?
wow man, i never heard that sound before. i thought it was more of a car struggling to start like "gaa gaa gaa gaa gaa" but it sounds that its skipping.

try this:

-Turn the key once so all the electric kicks in
-Put the shifter in nuetral
-Try to start it

i'm saying this because my old car had a little starting problem and when i put it in nuetral it started so maybe give it a shot at least.... wont hurt.
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
wow man, i never heard that sound before. i thought it was more of a car struggling to start like "gaa gaa gaa gaa gaa" but it sounds that its skipping.

try this:

-Turn the key once so all the electric kicks in
-Put the shifter in nuetral
-Try to start it

i'm saying this because my old car had a little starting problem and when i put it in nuetral it started so maybe give it a shot at least.... wont hurt.
Okay, I'll go try that right now and get back to you, thanks!
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Byebye starter! It's definately NOT the battery. Do yourself a favor and just look at the plugs to see if one isn't bent or broken. I've heard that before on my old car, and the starter turned out to be busted. Thanks for the vid, those gauges look cool
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Byebye starter! It's definately NOT the battery. Do yourself a favor and just look at the plugs to see if one isn't bent or broken. I've heard that before on my old car, and the starter turned out to be busted. Thanks for the vid, those gauges look cool
I'm like an English major working on quantum physics when it comes to cars, lol. I have no idea how to do that, but thanks for the suggestion.
What would have caused this? Like I said, last night it hesitated a little bit starting, but I thought it was just because it was cold out.
*EDIT* ANOTHER one of my friends is coming down to check out the spark plugs, like you suggested, so I'll get back to you guys, thanks!
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Hmmm... Check if it has enough gas...
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Hmmm... Check if it has enough gas...
It does, you can see that by when I turn it to "ON" it has over half a tank.
Oh well, guess there isn't much to be done
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
try this:

-Turn the key once so all the electric kicks in
-Put the shifter in nuetral
-Try to start it
Almost forgot, I tried this, and it still didn't work
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After watching the vid, I have no clue. It doesn't even sound like its trying to turn over...
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Exactly. If I have time I'm going to do what Gearbox suggested and check the plugs, but other than that, I'll be taking the bus tomorrow I guess
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That's exactly the noise my girlfriend's Toyota made... until I put a new starter in it. Hopefully your dealer has one in stock!
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Hopefully your dealer has one in stock!
Yeah, probably not
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hey, my friend's car had the exact same sound come out of it a few months ago and we did a bunch of tests and found out that the battery was defective and that there may have been a problem with the alternator and he had both replaced and the problem went away. Do you have a sound system in ur car?
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hey, my friend's car had the exact same sound come out of it a few months ago and we did a bunch of tests and found out that the battery was defective and that there may have been a problem with the alternator and he had both replaced and the problem went away. Do you have a sound system in ur car?
Nope, car is completely stock apart from the Neuspeed strut bar and K&N air filter.
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hmmm... well u said when u had ur friend give u a jump start, it sounded like it had a chance of starting?? did u make sure the connections were on properly? cuz if it did have a chance of starting for even a split second (gave a different sound instead of that weird clicking sound) it might just be a messed up battery..
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Yep, we tried them again and again with the same result as in the video, I guess it was just a fluke that it almost started the first time...

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wow that noise is unusual, ive never head that noise before
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I sent my friend the video who knows stuff about cars and he said this. I'm copy and pasting:

"sounds like a weak battery. not enough juice to power the starter motor. that sound is the strter solenoid engaging and disengaging as soon as it tries to crank. once it makes contact all there isnt enough power to keep it in position and crank"

dont know if its right or wrong but this is his opinion
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
I sent my friend the video who knows stuff about cars and he said this. I'm copy and pasting:

"sounds like a weak battery. not enough juice to power the starter motor. that sound is the strter solenoid engaging and disengaging as soon as it tries to crank. once it makes contact all there isnt enough power to keep it in position and crank"

dont know if its right or wrong but this is his opinion
Hmmm... yeah that may be true. My friend said it sounds like the relay engaging and disengaging really fast, which is what your friend said. But I wouldn't think the battery would be dead already, it isn't even a year old yet! And, like I said, I didn't leave anything on to drain it overnight, so I just can't figure this out. It wasn't even that cold out, and it's started in way worse conditions than last night's dusting of 15 cm of snow. Check out this pic, the car started after that no problem, in -15 celcius temperatues, so I am truly baffled.

Granted this was only a month after we got the car, so the battery may have gone down hill since then.
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Well so far two of us have said the starter. I know it's not the battery because on Hondas, the starter will click repeatedly with a dead or weak battery. That's not the sound his is making. That sounds like a broken starter noise. Now I'm guessing your car is under warranty, so none of this should be a problem. You could get a free battery and charging system test at kragen or advance auto parts just to rule out the battery. Then you know it's the starter. Did your friend check the plugs?

Remember, for a car to start you need air, fuel, and spark. You're not getting spark, and that's either bad plugs, battery, or starter most likely.


Wow your car got owned by snow. At a certain low temp, the electrolyte in the battery could freeze. Jump starting a frozen battery will kill it.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Well so far two of us have said the starter. I know it's not the battery because on Hondas, the starter will click repeatedly with a dead or weak battery. That's not the sound his is making. That sounds like a broken starter noise. Now I'm guessing your car is under warranty, so none of this should be a problem. You could get a free battery and charging system test at kragen or advance auto parts just to rule out the battery. Then you know it's the starter. Did your friend check the plugs?

Remember, for a car to start you need air, fuel, and spark. You're not getting spark, and that's either bad plugs, battery, or starter most likely.
Oh yeah, everything is under warranty, it's just an inconvenience more than anything else.
My friend never did stop by to check the plugs. We're going to have to get it towed to Acura to have the warranty work done on it anyway, when I find something out I'll post back.
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My friend was saying that it doesnt mean that the battery is dead. He told me that the battery might not have enough juice to power the starter motor. The battery still has a charge and all enough to power the windows and all the other junk but doesnt have enough power left to crank the starter up.
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thats what I think it is too.. But I'm probably wrong.. whenever my friends pump their systems or whatever for too long and try to start the car.. it makes that sound.. even though the lights, windows and all are fine..

I know your battery is not old at all but it may just be a defective one?
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
I sent my friend the video who knows stuff about cars and he said this. I'm copy and pasting:

"sounds like a weak battery. not enough juice to power the starter motor. that sound is the strter solenoid engaging and disengaging as soon as it tries to crank. once it makes contact all there isnt enough power to keep it in position and crank"

dont know if its right or wrong but this is his opinion
That is totally correct.

The starter solenoid just bounces because there is not enough CURRENT to keep it latched. Check the battery. In some rare cases it IS the starter, but most often the battery. If the starter has a shorted winding, it will do this as well.

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i watched your video and heard that familiar sound...i dreaded it when i first heard it too .... it just means your battery is reallllllly low ... obviously not dead cus some lights came on but not enough juice to crank it. i had to use jumper pack then let car run for an hour or so and it was fine after that

edit: sry didnt read previous posts ^^

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my mom's van was doin fvcked up **** when we tried to jump it once, we tried to jump it all the guages went up all the way lights were running full blast all this crazy stuff, still didnt start, they put a new battery in (under warranty) and everything was back to normal...really weird..
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