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Do they make springs that are stock height but stiffer? You could use your stock shocks then, right?

Does anyone have them? How do you like them?

How much of good cornering is actually being lowered (lower center of gravity) and how much has to do with the dampening and stiffness functions of the springs and shocks? I can't see lowering the center of gravity by an inch or two on a big car making that much difference.

Thanks.

 
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I know neuspeed makes on that drops it .75 inches i believe. Which is nothing

 
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I thought it was more like 1.75, and those are the sports! there are some that are just a 1 inch drop.... I think the Eibachs are like that.... they have it in the suspension FAQ.


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oops.... sorry, didnt know Neuspeed makes that type of spring.

 
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nothing that will be stock height. Either neuspeed sofsport (.75"), eibach prokit (1") or the HFP (1")

 
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Coilovers, just don't lower them.
But you still need shocks that can keep up with the stiffer rates.

 
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neuspeed doesn't make softsport spring anymore for the 7th gen...

 
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I'd get prokit or HFP if u can get it really cheap I saw someone selling HFP for... i wanna say $400

 
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HFP still lowers you about 1"

 
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If this is for performance, you may want to rethink your idea.. Simply because a car (especially ours) will actually handle better on Performance shocks on stock springs then it will on stock shocks with performance springs...

So if you were to only get one or the other (Springs or shocks) and you wanted the best handling, the shocks would be the better choice.

 
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coils still lower regardless. It won't be stock height. It may be close but not the same height.

You could always have custom springs made. They aren't that hard or that expensive. But I agree with zzyzx, i really don't see the point.

 
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So what would happen if you got performance shocks and kept the stock springs? How would it handle? How would the stock springs deal with the lower ride height? Would the height even be lower? Is height determined by the springs or the shocks?

Thanks.

 
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Springs determine the ride height.

 
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i have goldine springs they lowered my car 1.75 and after settle its a nice 2 inch drop.

 
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This has nothing to do with what he was asking!!

Shock will improve handling and might be a little stiffer. Springs determine ride height. Read the Suspension Tuning 101 in the Autox Forum.

 
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THe car will react Much quicker to your steering imputs, and if you get Adjustible dampers (Koni) then you will be able to adjust the Oversteer/understeer characteristics of the car.

Ride height shouldnt change.

 
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tein makes some that are VERY VERY close to stock ride height, but are like 30% stiffer, the only problem is that I dont remember what they were called, but i think that they are a gold-brown color.

 
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Would it be ok for the car then if I just got stiffer shocks but kept the stock springs? Is that an easy DIY mod? Overall do you think it would be a beneficial and noticible mod? And because the ride height stays the same I wouldn't have to adjust the camber, correct?

I don't suppose anyone here has done that, because everyone likes lowering their ride as well But if anyone has, let me know.

 
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You will have to get an alignment after chaing the shocks. I don't suggest aligning your car yourself. Shocks should not be a problem. Tokicos will swap right in and so will KYBs. Konis, you will have to cut up your front strut. Read the thread above that tells you the difference between the shocks. And yes it would be a beneficial mod. However, you have to decide what type of shocks you want. Konis and AGX are adjustable whereas Tokico blues aren't. That means you can adjust how hard the shocks take the bump.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=171892

All you have to do is disassemble your stock suspension, put the spring and the mount on the shock and put it back in. That is, if you aren't putting in the konis. They need a little more work. There is a thread on the site (that means search for it!) that shows you how to put in the konis.

 
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Hmmm...

So is the only difference between getting lowering springs + new shocks and just getting new shocks ride height?

There's a lot of cool I want to do to my car, I just don't know how much longer I'm going to keep it.

 
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No, springs will be stiffer than stock. Although shocks will increase the stiffness, springs are the determinate of how the car moves from side to side. Higher spring rates resist moving up and down and are better for turning quickly. However, adjustable shocks can do that also, but only to a certain point.

 
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So would there be a problem with just getting new shocks and keeping the stock springs? Here's why I ask:

1. I don't care about a drop from a visual standpoint. I mean it looks cool sometimes, but function over form.

2. Not buying springs = less money.

I don't want it to be all bouncy tho. I hate those lowered ricer cars you see that are rocking forward and backward every two seconds because something is wrong with their suspension (I don't know what tho).

Are shocks height sensitive? It sounds like they would be, which makes me think there'd be a problem getting stiffer shocks but keeping the stock springs because if they weren't, then you wouldn't need new shocks after getting lowering springs.

So if I got new shocks and kept the stock springs, would my car handle the same as now except have tighter response and handling?

Basically what's the difference between doing that, and getting new shocks AND new springs?

 
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There would be no problem in getting just shocks. For stock class in Autox you aren't allowed to change your springs but you can get better shocks. Shocks will help. You will have somewhat better handling but don't expect it to turn on a dime. Lower center of gravity and stiff springs will help do that better than shocks. Shocks are a worthy upgrade by themselves. so if you want to save some money and get a good upgrade then go ahead. Springs aren't that much more expensive, but you will need a camber kit if you get springs. If you are looking for someone to tell you do one thing or the other, we really can't. You have to judge for yourself what you want the car to do and buy parts for that.