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turbo smoking, head gasket?

i got my turbo kit and it was smokin like a bit*h so i had the turbo completely rebuilt, i ran the kit for like a week on 5psi with no fuel kit, im afraid i blew my head gasket because it quit smoking right after i put the new turbo on, and i rode it real hard that day, and the next day its smokin a white/blueish smoke all the time, and when i get on the gas the motor sounds like its got 200,00 miles on it, and its only got 30k. hahah, im assuming i blew the gasket cause i didnt run the fuel system, and it didnt help i was blowing oil into the motor when the turbo was leakin. (and i took it to the track, haha) let me know what you guys think, thanks.
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btw, i put the fuel setup on the car now, but im waiting until i get the problem fixed to run it.
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let me know what you guys think, thanks.

you don't wanna know what i think
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Wow.... I think you blew your motor... Running without a Fuel System and pushing it... well more than likely you need to rebuild your motor.
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holy ****, so what do you think civic01. i dont think it blew it, but its limpin!
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i got my turbo kit and it was smokin like a bit*h so i had the turbo completely rebuilt, i ran the kit for like a week on 5psi with no fuel kit, im afraid i blew my head gasket because it quit smoking right after i put the new turbo on, and i rode it real hard that day, and the next day its smokin a white/blueish smoke all the time, and when i get on the gas the motor sounds like its got 200,00 miles on it, and its only got 30k. hahah, im assuming i blew the gasket cause i didnt run the fuel system, and it didnt help i was blowing oil into the motor when the turbo was leakin. (and i took it to the track, haha) let me know what you guys think, thanks.
turbo w/o adding fuel? ... you were probably running HELLA lean ... which = detonation

bluish white smoke is coolant. Welcome to blown headgasket land ... before/after your replace that, you may wanna replace your plugs and get some colder plugs
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i just put new plugs in it, i already blew a plug out. so whats the deal with the the blow headgasket, educate ME!!!!
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edjucate? i dont know how it spell it, how bout you just tell me my best option!
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the thing that gets me is i only had it on a week! can it blow in a weeks time???
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hm .. replacing a headgasket is pretty expensive and a pita. if you can do it yourself, it'll cost ~$40 (for the gasket) ... but if you don't, I don't recommend doing it by yourself especially since you probably don't know what you're doing

if you do end up doing it yourself, make sure your torque the head bolts correctly

blew a plug? ... probably detonated to hell ... make sure you get new plugs again
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nah i can do it myslef, thats what im planning on doing. plus it will give me an excuse to install my AEM cam gear. i just dont have anytime to do it. im lookin for a stronger head gasket, any links?
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the thing that gets me is i only had it on a week! can it blow in a weeks time???

detonation is a lovely thing
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Originally Posted by robo1040
nah i can do it myslef, thats what im planning on doing. plus it will give me an excuse to install my AEM cam gear. i just dont have anytime to do it. im lookin for a stronger head gasket, any links?
Lots of pressure from the block can force the head up just a fraction of a millimeter and then you will get exhaust gasses and other nice stuff to leak through, which will damage the gasket seals ... hence, you've got a blown head gasket. headstuds (like from ARP) would help ...a head gasket's a head gasket ... there is no "stronger" headgasket (imo).

when u put your motor back into shape, make sure u do everything the RIGHT way this time and don't take any shortcuts ...
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but dude, i never heard detonation when i was driving without the fuel kit? actually everything sounded ok, i rode like that for a week, and went to the track once, actually i take that back, it rode like **** without the fuel and i had the SF check valve, i bought the missing link and put the fuel system on and put the rebuilt turbo on and ran it ***** to the wall yesterday, now i think the head gasket is gone, im doin a compression test sunday
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i just hope if it do it, it solves the problem...i just want to be boosted with no probs
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but dude, i never heard detonation when i was driving without the fuel kit? actually everything sounded ok, i rode like that for a week, and went to the track once, actually i take that back, it rode like **** without the fuel and i had the SF check valve, i bought the missing link and put the fuel system on and put the rebuilt turbo on and ran it ***** to the wall yesterday, now i think the head gasket is gone, im doin a compression test sunday

you can't always hear detonation
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i just want to be boosted with no probs
that's an oxymoron
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im thinkin, should i get a new head, what about one of thoes DH ones???
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You "blew a plug out"? As in it came up and pushed the coil out of the way and hit your hood... or you blew the end of the spark plug off? Either way, you're looking at a TOTAL rebuild of the motor if either one of those happened. Pieces of metal (your spark plug's busted ***) will scrape and embed themselves in your pistons, valves, and cylinder walls, and that means new pistons and either re-sleeve the block while rebuilding the head, or get a whole new block.

Does your oil dipstick try to fly up when you hit boost? If so, you fried your rings.

90% of detonation cannot be heard. If you can hear detonation, you already blew up something important.

Don't run a turbo without a fuel system made for a turbo... good god people that can't be that hard to understand.

Do a compression check, then do a leakdown test. Then have whoever is replacing your headgasket turn the motor over manually once the head is off to visually check the cylinder walls and pistons. Take off your oil pan, and see if you have chunks of things in there. If you're lucky, it's just your headgasket. If not... then prepare to rebuild the whole motor.
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You "blew a plug out"? As in it came up and pushed the coil out of the way and hit your hood... or you blew the end of the spark plug off? Either way, you're looking at a TOTAL rebuild of the motor if either one of those happened. Pieces of metal (your spark plug's busted ***) will scrape and embed themselves in your pistons, valves, and cylinder walls, and that means new pistons and either re-sleeve the block while rebuilding the head, or get a whole new block.

Does your oil dipstick try to fly up when you hit boost? If so, you fried your rings.

90% of detonation cannot be heard. If you can hear detonation, you already blew up something important.

Don't run a turbo without a fuel system made for a turbo... good god people that can't be that hard to understand.

Do a compression check, then do a leakdown test. Then have whoever is replacing your headgasket turn the motor over manually once the head is off to visually check the cylinder walls and pistons. Take off your oil pan, and see if you have chunks of things in there. If you're lucky, it's just your headgasket. If not... then prepare to rebuild the whole motor.


So sad but very true
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do u have a lot of blow-by coming out of your breather valve in the block? If so, welcome to my world. You blew every single one of your pistons, broke your ringlandings, and most likely fried your rings as well.

If you think its your headgasket, check your engine coolant. If its milky-white, slimey on top, then you blew the headgasket. If its fine, then you have a lot of internal damage, just like my car

I blew a spark plug too....so far I'm up to $1100 in repairs. You have fun with that
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Do yourself a favor and never run the car again on boost without a fuel system.........
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Originally Posted by robo1040
but dude, i never heard detonation when i was driving without the fuel kit? actually everything sounded ok, i rode like that for a week, and went to the track once, actually i take that back, it rode like **** without the fuel and i had the SF check valve, i bought the missing link and put the fuel system on and put the rebuilt turbo on and ran it ***** to the wall yesterday, now i think the head gasket is gone, im doin a compression test sunday
How much boost where you running with the fuel system and what fuel system did you have?
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Do yourself a favor and never run the car again on boost without a fuel system.........
that goes for everybody ... ;P
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i only blew the ground straps off the spark plug, and actually i believe that the chips of the strap would be shot out the exhaust, the only major damage that could have caused was to rip a fin off the turbo. i think its the head gasket, im pretty positve. thaks guys
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im checking it this sunday before i take it all apart. im doin the gasket myself, i work in a shop so there are madd tools around here. one of my buddies is a crazy mechanic, he says we could have it done in a few hours
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Originally Posted by robo1040
i only blew the ground straps off the spark plug, and actually i believe that the chips of the strap would be shot out the exhaust, the only major damage that could have caused was to rip a fin off the turbo. i think its the head gasket, im pretty positve. thaks guys
Yeah...we thought the ground strap would just go out of the exhaust on a turbo Focus. It ended up destroying one of the exhaust valves, and then pieces of that valve destroyed the exhaust wheel of his turbo. You obviously had large chunks of metal flying around if you ripped a fin off of a turbo (which is damn hard to do).

Just make sure you check the cylinder walls and rings well.
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sorry man, no i dont have any blow by, that part of it is good! the problem has to be the gasket, there just isnt any other place it could be. when i get off work today im gonna take the radiator cap off and see if its got exhaust in it.
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How do you KNOW he motor isn't screwed? Have you done leakdown #s?
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