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ok, i had decided to get 2 15" comp vr's until i heard they don't sound good from ludlam. Currently i have $420 but i already have all my wires and a dual 15" sub box. so if i stick with 2 15's i have $420 to spend, if i change to 1 15" sub then i have about $390 to spend because i would have to build another box. i want a 15 either way. main thing i want is to be louder and sound better than the comp vr's. if i cant find this i will settle for the comp vr's. i looking probably 70/30 or 60/40 spl/sq.so if you have any recomendations please post em' and i'll check it out. btw i want the sub to kind of look good(no adire).