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Old Mar 28, 2004
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Hondata may have just helped us out without knowing it....

Check this out:

http://www.hondata.com/kprorelease.html

Its an ECU for a K20 - but here's the kicker, its the stock ECU modified so it can be PROGRAMMABLE! Why is that cool you ask? Well, look at the specifications - you can change a multitude of parameters, including FUEL MAPS! The actual plugs on the K20 ECU is identical I believe to the D17s, other swap members may want to chime in here....The only thing that would be required is a few wiring harness modifications possibly, and a few sensor swaps from the K20! This may actually work, and is CHEAP enough to boot!! Wish I had more money and time to try this out!!!
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hrm interesting
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damn, that is gonna cost alot.

So, who is gonna be the guiena pig........LOL
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It would require some work - sort of like the vafc hack on the hondatech boards....I think it has potential of working. Alot of the sensors on the newer hondas are similar....Plus with the kpro you can disable a lot of the crap that might be incompatible (such as the multiplex unit, immobilizer, etc!) - costs a butt load less than an EMS or Motec....yet retains a lot of the stock stuff that the honda needs to function like stock.....

I would really like to hack with one of these....
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i'd get one if i planned on boosting, but i don't so..

I really don't think a k20 ecu will work with a d17, i mean a k20 worked with a d17 ecu but it WAS NOT happy.
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i'd get one if i planned on boosting, but i don't so..

I really don't think a k20 ecu will work with a d17, i mean a k20 worked with a d17 ecu but it WAS NOT happy.
Well, that was was because it wasn't "tuned" to work with the D17 - with the kpro you can adjust the whole ecu (fuel maps, boost, etc). If it was rewired for the correct inputs, and setup right I bet you could get a halfway decently tuned D17 off of it....
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it's pretty expensive though. If you can get your hands on a k20 ECU, then $995. If not... $1600.
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Originally posted by opto_isolator
Well, that was was because it wasn't "tuned" to work with the D17 - with the kpro you can adjust the whole ecu (fuel maps, boost, etc). If it was rewired for the correct inputs, and setup right I bet you could get a halfway decently tuned D17 off of it....
you have to remember though that the k20 ecu, no mater what the fuel maps are tuned for is gonna look for I-VTEC and 2 cams, higher redline......

i mean if you feel like blowing 1600 bucks and finding out be my guest....but i wouldn't recommend it.
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soon as they come out with some A3 base maps for it ill be running k-pro on the turbo si
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Originally posted by Hawk
you have to remember though that the k20 ecu, no mater what the fuel maps are tuned for is gonna look for I-VTEC and 2 cams, higher redline......

i mean if you feel like blowing 1600 bucks and finding out be my guest....but i wouldn't recommend it.
Like I said before - its not a direct replacement and would require some engineering to get it working properly....

I see potential in this, compared to waiting for the EMS, etc. When the D17 starts to get built up (as in the case with DH shortblocks) - other methods of fuel control are going to be needed.....This MAY be an alternative. Sensors can be faked or wired together. If you look at the specs it says you can adjust the cam sensors as well....

Granted, as stated above it may be pricey, but you might be able to find a cheap K20 ECU in a junkyard somewhere...still cheaper than EMS and Motec....which don't offer a lot of the functionality of the stock features that interface with our ECU's...
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I would just wait for a D17 Hondata. They did it for the D16's, we'll prolly get one eventually too. Saves $$ in the long run.
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