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Advanced Induction Research: Carbon Fiber Intake

They have a manifold for Honda/Acura B18C1 and B16 Heads. These things look pretty awesome. Let's hope they expand the product line up...

http://www.advancedinductionresearch.com/

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At one point, I was thinking about making one. But these guys made it better than I coulda imagine. CF Intakes work great. Awesome to mold and configure to the shape which is optimum.
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wow...looks cool
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ya because carbon fiber doesn't heat up as much? YOu need your intake manifold to be light? I don't understand that point to this. With the minimal amount of power you may be getting from this with a stock TB, it's nothing but marketing at it's finest.
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and WOAH!!!!

List Price $1450.00

OMG! That's a faukin expensive intake manifold, considering it's only made for 2 applications the GSR and SI engines. BLah. Waste of money.
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It is the best intake manifold on the market and DO NOT expect it to come out for the D17.
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but maybe the K20

...not that I'd pay that much money anyway.
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i don't see the real advantage is lightening your intake manifold? It doesn't make any sense.
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Originally posted by Project2k2
i don't see the real advantage is lightening your intake manifold? It doesn't make any sense.
It's not just weight it's also flow and heat capacity. It greatly improves flow because they can shape these things much easier.
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Wow... that thing looks badass!
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CarbonFly's probably gonna jump all over that..
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like I stated, it said only for the b16a amd the b18a
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Originally posted by dober
DO NOT expect it to come out for the D17.
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I wonder how "different" it actually is. Money issue aside, I wonder if you could custom fab it onto the D17/K20?
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now thats what i call a manifold,
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carbon fiber absorbs heat almos the same as metal, i don't see the advantege besides the wieth reduction...
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Originally posted by CivicMexicano
carbon fiber absorbs heat almos the same as metal, i don't see the advantege besides the wieth reduction...
They can change the composition to their advantage during fabrication.
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Those IM's are hot!
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So explain what this means by changing "their composition." Does that mean that they can aerodynamically shape it so that air flows easier? Or what? I'm also one of the lost people in this "advanced" concept.
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DH, can you make that????
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Originally posted by CivicMexicano
carbon fiber absorbs heat almos the same as metal, i don't see the advantege besides the wieth reduction...
how is that? carbon fiber has a MUCH higher specific heat capacity than any metal used in car construction!

its most likely an allotropic form of diamond, and diamond has an EXTREMELY high specific heat, and is able to conduct heat extrememly quickly away from itself, so even if your house was burnt down, the ring that the diamond sits on coulda melted, but the diamond will be fine!
I can see how this manifold would outperform ANY metallic manifold out there...i just dun think i'd pay that price!
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I fired off an email to AIR:

"Will you be producing a similar manifold for the K20 (RSX-S engine)?"



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"Design work has begun, but it may be awhile before we can get it into production.



Thanks,



Darrin

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Originally posted by Kairi
So explain what this means by changing "their composition." Does that mean that they can aerodynamically shape it so that air flows easier? Or what? I'm also one of the lost people in this "advanced" concept.
You have it right. The can shape it to maximize flow.

When I said composition I meant the composition of the carbon fiber.
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Originally posted by chocobo15_2000
how is that? carbon fiber has a MUCH higher specific heat capacity than any metal used in car construction!

its most likely an allotropic form of diamond, and diamond has an EXTREMELY high specific heat, and is able to conduct heat extrememly quickly away from itself, so even if your house was burnt down, the ring that the diamond sits on coulda melted, but the diamond will be fine!
I can see how this manifold would outperform ANY metallic manifold out there...i just dun think i'd pay that price!
Good post.
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chocobo15_2000, you're somewhat mistaken. Its an allotropic form of -carbon-. Diamond is another allotropic form of carbon, but you really can't compare the two owing to differences in bonding. I would imagine the thermal capacities of carbon fiber to me more similar to those of actual carbon, or perhaps graphite, not to mention taking into account the thermal properties of the resin that the entire thing has been coated in.
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yes ur right dre...they are all allotropes of the basic element carbon

but YOU CAN compare diamond and carbon fiber...
here's why:

here's what the structure of diamond looks like
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now you said carbon fiber is more like graphite?

here's graphite:
if you notice, the structural formation is definitly NOT ideal for support, and if this kind of structure is used on our cars? i'd be shitting my pants everytime i drive around

(notice how the layers and layers of carbon rings can move easily because there is no C-C bond vertically, they are held together by polaric forces)
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can't find a good pic of carbon fiber, here's as close as it gets...

notice the similarities with diamond, 6 membered ring, VERY TIGHTLY arranged, and organized, unlike graphite.
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neat.
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Awesome pictures!
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