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Old Feb 2, 2004
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tinkering around with stock intake...

yo, wanted to tinker around with the stock intake

wanted to remove the resonator box, yeah it wont give me any power gains but i want some louder engine sound.

anyways, removing the cover of the intake filter box to resolve some clearance issues, i saw the ooooooooooo throttle body. i had my little bro (11 years old, hes my protege ) start the car and rev it a few times.....

ooo magical sound

but when the car started and was idling, there was a LOUD hissing. probably was so loud cause the top of the filter box was off, but thats normal right???

anyone remove their resonator box before?
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Yeah, that's the noise of air being sucked in. Just put it back together.
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that is the same sound that you get from an intake
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okie doke

i was also thinking, after removing the resonator to put a cone filter on the end of the stock filter box. good idea? cost?
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Wow. Just go buy a cheap intake.
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i took off my resonator box and just hooked my stock cone thing straight into the filer box. I get pretty good sound out of it too.
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good idea

no buying stuff unless its under $20

i am dirt cheap
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Did you ever think that the stock intake was made that way for a reason? They put the intake at the very edge of the engine bay so it doesn't suck in hot air close to the engine. But if you want to lose power and make your car noisy, you should definately get an intake.
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well i hope you took out your sotck filter beofer putting the cone filter ar the end of your stock intake box or your running two filters
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i took my resontor off in the summer. You will get Terrible gas milege, plus the car will get slowr, that is because u r sucking in hot air, which sucks. but it sounds damn sweet.

the best thing you should do is get some dryer tube from homedepot and hook it up to the stock filter, and put the edge if the tube behind your headlight, that way it will suck in cool air.
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^ tried that. the tube melted. AAHAHA
But now I have SRI
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I removed my resonator before purchasing my CAI to see what it was like. Sound was pretty good but ended up with a flat spot in the throttle response. Also, performance decreased substantially once everything was hot (no surprise here).

Save up for the CAI.... you won't be disappointed.
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hehe yeah i noticed i have no low end power and it kinda goes flat above 6k.

but the sound was cool, people (stupid people) at my school thought it was a muffler sound, but it was coming from the front, they were like "whoa you got a muffler IN the engine?"

stupid.....

yeah im gonna try and fabricate some wierd thing....
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that hissing sound is the air that is being sucked by your engine! yeah mine to has a loud hissing sound and my mom thinks my car is busted beacause of all my modifications on my car
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what the ****
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CAI intake makes your car slower than SRI. The piping is smaller and it takes longer to get to your engine!
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ok after about two-three days, and reading a whole bunch of stuff on the site, im putting the stock intake assembly back together

with one change, of course....


ya know the actual air inlet tube connected to the left side of the intake resonator, i was thinking of buying something like that but longer, or aiming the tube downwards towards the bumper --> colder air?

resonator is goin back on after reading boilmaker's comment:

"If you put a resonator in the intake track, you'll get your torque back. The problem that causes the loss of torque is the pressure. The resonator creates a reservoir of air, so it gets forced up the intake track... since the CAIs and SRIs just suck straight in, you just get air coming in at the speed the vacuum of the engine is pulling at. Thats what the AEM V2 was supposed to mimic by contracting the pipe area... but I don't think they contracted it enough."

i wanna leave the resonator in there for that reason. just aim the air inlet pipe for colder air induction

good? bad? just stock and no tube aimin?

i know this topic has been beaten to death, just i havent seen this before in the seraches...
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Originally posted by n20hcvc
CAI intake makes your car slower than SRI. The piping is smaller and it takes longer to get to your engine!
nope it is not true for my car i use a "RAM AIR" with (look at my avatar) no filters air coming in going straight to my TB and my pipe size is aroung 3 inches, great time on the dragstrip .3-.4 sec faster with stock everything
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Omg you must be so fast with your RAM AIR on your car!
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Originally posted by n20hcvc
CAI intake makes your car slower than SRI. The piping is smaller and it takes longer to get to your engine!

Ok.... let us think about this... since you make next to zero sense.

1. CAIs and SRIs have the same size piping. Even if one is larger than the other, it doesn't make much difference since the throttle is the same diameter regardless of whats plumbed on to it. The volume flow rate through the throttle body is constant.

2. WTF it takes longer to get to your engine.... who cares. The inside wall of the pipe is pretty smooth and usually is coated with something. Effects of friction loss over the pipe length can be neglected. The throttle pulls a vaccum, its the same no matter what. As long as there's air in the pipe, it doesn't matter how long the pipe is. The fact that it takes longer for the air to reach the throttle has no bearing on anything.

3. Air density. Cold air is more dense. The more air molecules you have in a given volume, the more oxygen you have, and the more gets into your engine. Its something like 140-160 Degrees in your engine bay. Not to mention you stick a short ram filter right next to the head and the radiator return line ( the coolant running through it is 210 deg). So suck in all the hot air you want. Meanwhile you go in the bumper well (Injen) and the temperature is only slightly higher than ambient, go behind the radiator (AEM) and its a little hotter because of the radiator blow by, but you're still picking up the air flow from underneath the car.
Cold air = more oxygen---> Better burn=more power.

And since both kinds of pipes are made of the same material, they both heat up the same. You still get colder air from a CAI because in the maybe 1 second it takes to run up that pipe, its not going to heat up all too much. I wish Injen would make a plastic CAI... I'd be all over it.
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Wow thanks for the lecture but nobody cares! Besides I heard it from a mechanic at Honda so calm down.
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And you dont have the same intake as I do so you cant say Sh%$!
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Originally posted by n20hcvc
And you dont have the same intake as I do so you cant say Sh%$!
Since when is fluid mechanics based on a brand of air intake?
And you may not care, but the 6000 other people who read this might. And I'm pretty sure some of them like the right info, and maybe a few of them like it backed up too.
But its fine... you can move right along in your ignorance.
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Cold air and short ram dont make a fvcks diffrence your not gonig to feel a significant improvement. This is like the debate on whether the AEM is better than a generic brand....pointless
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i saw that new intake that has the pipe pointing straight down right behind the transmission. you think that could take in colder air from outside/under the car?
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Look boilermaker, I'm not trying to argue or anything I'm just saying what a honda mechanic told me and ya he's probably wrong but he claims they dyno'd our car with the short ram and cold air and got different results. I would like to see the results as well but this was a while back when they did an oil change. But the piping, I know its the same piping on all of them but I was trying to say that the piping is shorter and can suck in faster "by what the mechanic was explaining." But I dont even bother about performance anyways because I'm not going for speed, Hope this clears things up.
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just keep the stock shyt on there... its the best all around contender
*and stick a k&n in there
 
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