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Im going to be ordering the Hayame Coilover setup this week, i am also getting a rear camber kit. I have asked Urban Import and he said that the hayames do not have a camber plate up front. Now my question is will the original camber bolt upfront be enough to fix it or is the front camber kit necessary?

Also until the spring im going to be rolling on the stock wheels/tires on my 03EX coupe. Will i have any rubbing issues if i drop it 2-2.5" with the corrected camber?


Thanks,
John

 
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no rubbing issues and you don't need a camber kit for the front....alot of people just use the rears but if ya want to be safe and feel like it's gonna help go ahead and put one on the front!

 
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Correct if you dont mind possible tire wear, and handling issues.... i would suggest having the alignment checked to determine if you need a camber kit

i guess this would be determined with what size tire you are running?

 
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LOL you don't need to get a alignment to determine whether or not you need a camber kit,just look at your tires if there doing this------> / \ get one!! what you do need though is a alignment though after you drop it which i recommend( but haven't done myself because i always adjust my height on my coilovers)

and yea TFNAAF he's running "STOCK TIRES" so with a 2.0-2.5 inch drop he'll be fine no rub guaranteed!


and no camber kit in the front! you won't even notice it (barely) in the front!! I Have mine dropped about 2 1/2 inches and the front camber of mine "SEEMS" fine but the back i can tell has negative but i have been to lazy to buy a camber kit for it ...oh well!

 
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sorry i missed that in his post
Yes this is a TRUE if you can SEE the camber in the tire if FOR SURE needs an alignment. But just cause you cant see it dont mean it doesnt need it.

 
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ya you wont rub with stock wheels. i'm on 215-40-18s which are alot bigger than stock and i dont even rub.

 
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wait i posted that wrong above what i meant was you don't need alignment to determine if you need a camber kit because you can see the negativity of the wheels point blank and anything below 1.50 inch will need a camber kit. But get a alignment though after you drop it is what i meant!

 
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Thanks for the replys, i am planning on getting an alignment once i install the coilovers. Mr. Modify, you say anything lower than 1.5" needs a camber kit, im assuming you mean in the front? I know the rear definitely will.

 
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What i meant to say was Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Some people post here off what they have heard and what they believe to be true. Why would you trust what someone says over what an alignment machine can tell you? I'm not trying to sell you an alignment Point blank a camber kit should be installed if you are out of specs. As i recall negative .9 degrees is min camber setting( i could be wrong here on the spec ), you tell me how many people can SEE if its negative1.0 degrees camber compared to negative.9 degrees on a tire thats only 20 some inches tall? Hell i did wheel alignments for better part of 15 years, and i bet at best i could GUESS was with in .5 degrees camber. Guess i need to have my eyes re-calibrated

 
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i hate to admit it but i agree with the guy above me... best way to see if you "need" a camber kit is to look at the sheet after you get an alignment. if its out of spec, you "need" one. reason why i put it in " " is cause you dont really 'need' it but its 'recommended' for even tire wear.

 
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nod thanks i just hate to see people give out bad info. and i agree on the "Need" need is subjective

 
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I've yet to see any negative camber up front, and I've been at full tuck on the hayames. Yes, this was verified when I had my alignment done.

 
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well i just got my suspension put on about 3 days ago....and my alignment is off...i am going to get it aligned tomarrow when i put my new rims on....the camber is a little off in the front so i bought some camber bolts....hopefully it will come out...

 
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My camber was off, but it was fixed without any use of camber bolts.

 
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sweet....well i just wanted to make sure everything was gonna go smooth so i bought them to save time....i guess ill just return them as soon as i get it aligned right....thanx

 
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why waste money on a alignment to find out if you need a camber kit? of course your gonna need a camber kit if you lower the car. I don't need a alignment to tell me my camber is gonna be off!! when i say "POINT BLANK" i mean if you lower it **** point blank your gonna need one so no need in wasting money in a alignment. Not giving bad info just bad typing. NO need to Call me out and say i give bad info...because believe i have helped a couple people on here with there questions. I'm sorry we can't all be Alignment Masters like you tfnaaf but i just say what i "KNOW" Besides everyone should look into the issues thereselves as well because this whole website is based on alot of opinions that some what inofrmative. He asked a question and i helped. I try to post as much accurate Information as i can for people who are not to sure about something.

Situation:

Drop Car= Camber Kit

Drop Car=Get Alignment to find out if you need one=Camber Kit= waste of money on a alignment that could of been used later on.

you probably don't get what i'm saying but hey it's the net. Who does?

Just Drop the car get a camber kit and then get it aligned.

not Drop the car/get a alignment/then get a camber kit/then possibly another alignment again. doesn't make sense to spend unneccessary money? Even if you get a .50 inch drop get a camber kit lol.

I"M SORRY MR.ALIGNMENT KING

 
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just getting it aligned is not gonna fix it.

 
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i know...i have the camber kit for the front....so im not worrying about it....im just gonna give it to the alignment shop to put in....it's not like it's gonna cost me any more cause my friend works there and is getting it all done for free....so im not trippin....

 
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I ask for you forgiveness, I apologize. But around here they do FREE alignment checks around here. So get alignment checked. Camber out of spec you have a couple options alignment without camber kit, Have them put in a camber kit and alignment, or take it off the rack save your self the 25$? labor they charge to put 2 bolts in take it home get the jack out remove the tire insert bolt rinse repeat on other side drive it back then have them align it. I guess the market is different around here.

 
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damm guys i wish i could get a Free ALignment here

It's cool though tfnaaf. As long as smoeone reads this thread and gets the right idea it's all good!

 
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Dont forget i did say CHECKS, meaning they hook the machine up and get a printout then ask if you want them to align it or not. They get LOTS of repeat business just off that. After all some of the shops can have total alignment readings in less then about 6 mins? give or take. BTW i Also used to be a manufactures sales rep for one of the top 2 wheel alignment machine companys.