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Okay i have a couple of issues here and by searching around it would not help me much, so i decided to post this topic again.
I have another 1000Km left for my next oil change and whats inside my engine is Mobil 1
0W-20 Synthetic. I live in an area where founding such oil would be a hassle. So i went oil shopping today and came by this place. The guy from this place told me that 0W-20 is only for people living around the arctic or south pole. So am I WRONG for putting 0W-20 synthetic in my ride? Instead he sold me on some Royal Purple 5W-20 synthetic and an K&N performance oil filter. Is royal purple better than Mobil? actullay my question would be so i go with the 5w-20 Synthetic or 0W-20 Synthetic dosen't matter what brand. an lastly the guy told me that since i am only switching brands and i am staying synthetic, i wouldn't need to flush my engine out. Please Please help me.!! I have another 1000 KM. thanks

 
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I dont think you need a k&n oil filter... the honda ones work well as far as I know.
Maybe you could explain the advantage of the k&n one?

 
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well, i am such a sucker when i am being told what is better than what...when i am talking to the parts counter dudes. the guy said K&N filters down to 10-20 microns + old oil out of pan seems cleaner when changed . K&N is costly too! so if it works out i am gonna stay with K&N.

 
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you should not have to change them as often, but if you are paying someone they will prob take it out, and if you are doing it yourself then you may as well change it while your in there anyhow....

I know the Honda one has some kind of seal in it so it holds some oil so it dosent have to get lubed again when you turn your car back on

 
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oh well, i am buying a whole case of drain nuts/w washer.....i will make sure every oil chane = to new drain nut + washer. just for the peace of mind you know

 
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but Im refering to the filter... you def have to have the washers!

 
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Quote from Mobil1's site:
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 0W-20 is the ideal motor oil for high-revving and high-output four- and six-cylinder engines. Mobil 1 0W-20 is only recommended where a 0W-20 or 5W-20 viscosity is specified. Mobil 1 0W-20 is particularly appropriate for any 1998-2003 Honda Accord, and 1996-2003 Honda Civics (except DOHC/VTEC). It exceeds the motor oil requirements for the ultra-fuel-efficient Honda Insight and Civic Hybrid models, which specify using a 0W-20 viscosity grade.

That part about "except DOHC/VTEC" probably applies to the 2.0 litre civic sold in Europe. Our american coupes and sedans are SOHC.

So no, using 0w-20 is fine. I use it myself with no problems. Mobil1's synthetic isn't cheap, but Royal Purple is even higher and not worth it IMO.

If you want more info in oil filters, check out this site. It basically says that you don't have to pay a lot for name-brand filters to get good performance and names which brands not to buy. It's a good read.

 
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well I have vtec so I guess I cant use 0-20 mobil1....lease:

 
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Is that a joke or did you not read my post carefully?

 
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oh well, i have beem using MObil 1 0W-20 for the past 4 months. so i think i will try out the Royal Purple 5w-20 to see if i get any better on my MPG.

 
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oh, I thought it ment DOHC OR VTEC....

 
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I figured you did. It is a little misleading. If you want to see the site in Thailand with the 2.0 civic, CLICK HERE. Makes me sick that we can't get one of the K20's. It's

Post your results if you notice a difference or not. I doubt you will, but it can't hurt the motor to try it.

 
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Bellz: what is your take on if I should do an engine flush b4 switching?

 
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By engine flush, are you saying to somehow purge all the old oil out?
If so, then I say no, just warm the car, drain the oil, and change the filter. It doesn't hurt to mix a little oil, even if one is normal dino oil. By the 2nd oil change, all the old oil will be gone. Personally, I always change the oil filter at every oil change. You technically don't have to, but it's added protection to me.

Tips if you're a oil change newbie (you may or may not need these):
Open the oil fill cap before draining. It'll drain faster.
Put a little oil on the new filter's gasket before putting it on. This helps make a good seal. Hand tighten it as tight as you can, you only want it snug. If you overtighten with an oil wrench, it'll be a beyotch to get off the next time.
Have a container that's made for oil changes to catch the old oil. Dispose of it at a local oil change place, even if it costs a dollar. That stuff is lethal to animals and a biohazard...not to mention it's illegal to dispose of it anywhere else.
Be sure to put the plug, washer, and filter on BEFORE putting oil in. This may seem simple, but people still forget and do it all the time. Don't overtighten the plug bolt. If I'm not mistaken, the oil pan is aluminum and can warp easily.

 
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Royal Purple and a K&N Oil Filter? Sounds like he's trying to hose you unless he's doing it for the same price. 0W20 is fine with your car.

 
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thats a lil exteme dont ya think? u know ur only suposed to change the washer and the filter not the nut every time too.....but uhh yeh was this guy tryin to make a comission?

 
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I had royal purple in my car from a oil change, I could feel a difference in power. Plus I think it is the only oil on the market that claims to give you a couple extra horsepower from it. And also they say it last up to 10,000 miles. I still wouldnt go that long, but maybe around 5 or 6k miles. It is expensive when put in at a oil change place.

 
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kewl, information to know everyone. i just got my 4 bottles of Royal Purple today.

 
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They listed it as a 1996 to 2003 civic, so they were also referring to the 6th generation of civics where you do have the si which is dohc and vtec. If its from mobiles site, which is geared for the the individual country, I doubt that they are refferring to the 2.0 litre civic sold in Europe.

 
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serious? 2.0 civic in europe were not targeted on their web-site?

 
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hank u talk mad **** u lil ****, n e way u dont even show ur car cuz that **** is probably ****, n e way peace, dont hate

 
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I'm not hating on anyone in this thread, i'm just pointing out some facts to help some people out and get a better understanding of things. I'm not trying to hate on anyone or anything like that.

With the one exception being you in your my rides section going off on prototype cause he said your car wasn't his taste. Then you go off and try to attack him like that. Your quick with the words. That wasn't needed at all, and thats why i don't care for you.

 
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Change the filter and washer everytime.

There is this old mechanic guy I talk to and he says that changing your oil and not changing your filter is like $hitting your pants, wiping your @$$ and putting on the same $hitty pants again.

The washer is changed each time, because it's a crushable washer so when you tighten it down it seals nicely. You're just risking a leak if you don't change it each time.

 
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Are you dain bramaged? Go back to middle school.

 
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Post your results if you notice a difference or not. I doubt you will, but it can't hurt the motor to try it. [/B][/QUOTE]

not really much of a difference switching from Mobil 0W-20 to Royal Purple 5W-20 + I changed my spark plug to Denso IK20 iridium this time. but not really much of a difference.

 
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I have both, royal purple oil and K&N filter....the filter flows better than stock but the stock filters more...so take your pick...id rather have faster flow. Royal purple oil kicks ***....i usually use 3 qts and an stp oil treatment

 
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0w20 will work fine no need to go to 5w20, I have used 0w20 Motul ever since I bought the car except for the first couple thousand. Washer replacement should be madatory but it does vary from car to car, I just finished my apprentice ship at nissan some mechanics change the washer some don't. Their Master Technician doesn't change them and he's been doing it for 25+ years. Doesn't really mean anything but it's better to be safe than sorry so why not spend the extra 50 cents on a washer and change it since you gotta take the plug out anyway.