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hey i was wondering for a suspension should i get air bags, or go with a lowered suspension.. i was debating on the two for 2 months.. and this is something to get for the spring time.

 
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teins....

air bags is bad ride quality...

end of discussion....lock thread

 
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but damn it looks sooooo good on peoples car though

 
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ok.......dont' get air suspension if ur car is a daily driver, especaily for the winter time.

Also, it will cost u b/n $2,000 and $2,500

Anymore questions, then ask here or pm me........i can go on and on about air.

 
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do u have yahoo?? if so hit me up my name on there is detroittosag... anyway yes my car is an everyday car.. so please tell me more about your knowledge on air bags i would be very happy to hear it... and i don't know how to pm on here.

 
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no yahoo, i have AIM

Nelly1494

 
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oh well... but just tell me what u know about air struts/bags.. becsue i really wanted bags.. but the way your talking there not good for everyday use... i used to have a 97 grand am.. lowered 2 inches and it scraped a man hole cover (detroit roads are terrible) and blew the engine when the oil pan riped... but again i do want this car lowered to, becasue it handles sooo much better with better springs and struts/shocks.. but damn hoppin it up the street is equally as kool.

 
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first of all.....any air suspesion is no good for a daily driver, cuz u are gonna have leaks.....my one friend has leaks with his 6thgen civ and he came out of work one nite and his car was sitting on the ground.......another kid i know is having problems with his. All air suspension leaks, some are minimal and some are huge.

Strut bags give u a better ride but are more expensive and it sux when u blow a bag......i was contemplating on getting them, but i am going with rods. Rods are cheaper, but give a little bouncy ride. Also, i don't recommend hoping our cars.....banging switches is alright, but no hoping. And i really dont' recommend hoping bags, plus u will have a hard time gittin bags off the ground compared to rods.

U also have to look at what valves u want, u want to bang switches, so u will want a fast set-up which will cost u more. If u want air, then u will have noisy compressors in ur trunk. I am going with nitrogen, cuz i hate noisy compressors. The downfall to nitrogen is that u have to get them refilled when u run out, u can do that at ur local welding shop......like 10 bucks each time. Also, u have to rent the tanks.....10 bucks a month, or u can buy them......around 150 bucks each.

Also, winter time is no friend to air suspension, u definitely need a beater car.

Any more questions then feel free to ask.

 
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also, if u want handling, then air is no way to go, u get body roll at higher speeds, plus taking turns at high speeds is way too hard on the suspension.

 
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daum well money was never a factor.. i just looked at this web site www.airbagit.com and it was like 1300 for the whole kit... no bags i think it was air struts.. but daum. i never got to hit switches before... and if it leaks i guess just have to buy one strut again or something like that... i just want the look so i can raise and lower the car.. but why is the winter time bag on the air bags??? and u said noisey compressors in the trunk?? i lived with 3 bangin sound systems in my life time.. the latest one got me trophies in sounds so noise is not a worry. but u are giving me some good advice on what to pick.. becasue i love speed, and your telling me i can't race, or go fast with air struts.. thats' not a good thing with me.

 
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There is one member on here that has stuff from airbagit....cant't remember who.

And it isnt' the bags that leak, it is the valves or the lines....the problem is trying to find the leak......a realy major pain in the ***.

Winter is bad on the bags cuz they are rubber, cold and rubber dont' mix, plus the salt and **** on the roads aren't good for them.

There is a difference b/n stereos and compressors. I have had 2 set-ups that were banging over 150 db's.......lol. But compressors have a steady hum to them......plus depending on how big ur compressor is depends on how long it takes to fill the tank. Some ppl dont' mind them, but i hate them.

U can race in straight line with air, but dont' go auto-crossing. Plus air suspension adds major weight to the car. U are either show or go !!!

 
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I love air suspension. Most of my friends and 4 of the guys in the team Im in have airride. Smoothest ride possible. Of course if u dont have it installed right or if u have shitty stuff its not gonna be good but if u get the good stuff then u shouldnt have to worry about it. U r gonna have to get the best fittings possible to make sure u have no leaks. A couple of my friends have their airride for daily driven. As far as compressors go yeah do sound kinda loud but not all of them. Most of my friends just have nitrogen. So there airride is fast and they dont have to worry about waiting for the tank to fill up. The only thing is u gonna have to refill ur bottle about once a week dependin on how much u play with it. Its only $10 though.

 
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^^^ what toolow said, valves valves valves.........some shops prices are lower for installs cuz they use cheap fittings. U need top notch fittings or u are gonna have probs with leaks.

 
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yo civic01vtec where in pa can we get air ride suspension done? any prices and info that u got

 
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any body know of a place in michigan that can do the air ride suspension.. i want the good stuff... is that kit from www.airbagit.com, any good.. i mean the complete kit for a 2001 civic?? if not does anybody know of a better kit. and where do i go to have it put on... technicly i can do the struts, and shocks myself. but the wireing will be the hardest part of all.

 
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where at in PA are u ?

 
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I dont' like kits cuz they use cheap fittings to keep the price of the kit down. You are better off going to a local shop and having them do it. And as far as installing the struts/bags it isnt' just a bolt-on thing, they say it is, but there will be some cutting and welding. Plus, i am a little iffy on the wiring too. So, i am gonna have my local shop do my set up.

There is one member here that has the EAI kit, which is rods, i will have to look for the web addy later then i will post it up.

 
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ok do that when u can.. i'd like to see how much he paid for it... and thanks for the info on not getting the whole kit, with the cheap fittings... dont' wanna have crappy stuff in a hot car

 
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I have the EAI kit. But it's air struts in the front, and bags in the rear. Here is what I have to say about MY airride. It was a pain in the *** to install. I had to change almost all the fittings b/c the ones they sent me sucked *** and I constantly had air leaks. The ride is not that great. My friend with air cylinders has a much better ride. I'm am definately wanting to switch to cylinders in the rear. Having no shock back there sucks. After changing most of the fittings I still have an air leak. I don't drive it everyday, but still drive it quite a bit. I kind of gave up on the leak, so that doesn't really bother me THAT much. What bothers me the most is the ride quality. If you're wanting to take sharp corners and stuff like that, DO NOT get airride. Even after all this, I still love my airride. It's a lot of fun, you just have to worry about a lot more things.

 
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how much did u pay for your air ride???? so damn maybe i shouldn't get the air ride.... or just get air struts for a better ride with extra nice fittings so it will work properly.. so i can play with the sitches every day...

 
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Air Ride Technology is good. I don't know who would install it, but I know they have dealers, all custom hot rods use them. And they never leak. Very clean. www.ridetech.com is the website for it. I would look into them, and then finding a suspension place that speacializes in the air ride, especially suspension companies that do hot rods.

 
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ok.. hey how much did u spend on yours??? do u play with the switches like all the time.. casue i already know at first.. i'll be hittin corners at every chace i can get..

 
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I paid$2300 for everything. Now don't get me wrong, I can still play around with my switches and everything. When I said I still have an air leak, it's really small. If my tank is full, then by overnight it will be almost empty. So it's not that big of a leak, but still noticeable. So basically everything is ok except the ride quality. As for the cylinders, I hear Brisland has the best. If I could go back in time, I would probably try them instead.

 
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oh okay... then air struts it will be... not coil overs... or lowering springs.. thanks for the advice.

 
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^^^ air struts will run u more money and they do not lay as low as rods do, just so u know.

 
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Hey man, just to remind you about the winter thing. If your thinking of driving on air in the winter, your crazy!! If your winters in detroit are anything close to what we have in new hampshire, all the ice, salt and sand will rip those bags to shreds. It will probably still work as a daily driver, but make sure u add like an extra $500 to the total cost for that winter beater.

 
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i have the aim bags front and rear. no probs with the front so far. the back leaked where it was sealed and i put new oring in it. so that fixed it. heres the prob it just didnt go low enough for me so i modified the front and rear brackets, now im draging every where. ive had the bags for about 7 months. all my eight valves are 1/2 inch, i have 2 6 gallon 8 port tanks. and 2 blow jax comp. if you do get the kit and you have probs let me know ill try tell you how to fix it.

 
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Cylinders are waaaaayyyyyy better than bags imo....with the bags they'll blow after time unless contructed right....bags twist with the rack&pinion and blow seals..valves are super important(as everyone else stressed as well).....I cant wait until I have enough for a good cylinder kit...

 
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im in king of prussia civic01vtec

 
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i emailed air ride, there kit is suppose to be out by 11/03 so ive been emailin them trying to find a price, they have air sturt kit for our cars.imo they are the best air ride co. ive known this company back in the day doing air ride on trucks, so i know they have years of experience making quality kits, ill let you know what they says. cant go wrong , layin frame , and they're pretty reasonable prices as well,great product at a great price...