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Old Sep 22, 2003
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2004 Civic Si Sedan! Yes A Sedan that is an Si!!!!!!

Well im not sure if anyone knows this but they are finally making a civic si sedan, its going to have the same motor as the si coupe, its going to come with the same new 15's alloys and a sunroof, its basically the EX, but now its called the Si just like the coupe...
i never understood whyin previous models of civics the top of the line coupes were always si, but sedan were ex, but in the states both were ex...
whatever?
how good is this?
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honda is ghey
i wish my sedan has vtec and sunroof and sway bar...etc
i am pissed to know that my 01 civic doesnt look the same as the 04 model
so my car can depreciate even more now
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Yay another 12 horsepower

While everyone else is just like blowing pass us... let's see, hmm.. Focus gets a 140HP 2.3L... and.. so is Suzuki Aerio..

Honda needs to ****ing wake up, and get out of SOHC land
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Re: 2004 Civic Si Sedan! Yes A Sedan that is an Si!!!!!!

They had this since 1996.

It's called the Acura EL....

Sorry, had to ***** my EL

Originally posted by slammed2k2
Well im not sure if anyone knows this but they are finally making a civic si sedan, its going to have the same motor as the si coupe, its going to come with the same new 15's alloys and a sunroof, its basically the EX, but now its called the Si just like the coupe...
i never understood whyin previous models of civics the top of the line coupes were always si, but sedan were ex, but in the states both were ex...
whatever?
how good is this?
dave
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ok but at least its better then only having an LX Model sedan,
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honda SI in the states is the SIR in canada
that is why the honda EX is the SOHC VTEC sedan and coupe in the states.

in canada the EL was the EX alternative. i heard that the EL was being discontinued soon but not sure when that is happening...but the new EL is suppose to look nice...(source from honda)...

keep this in mind tho...
a honda civic isn't fast until you swap a motor into it.
a honda civic is an economical car that is fuel efficient.
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anyone have an idea when the release date will be
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I started a new thread before I found this one.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...ght=2004+sedan

It's still not on the main site yet, but the brochure has the Si sedan listed. I wonder how they'll price it and juggle that with the EL. There is room for the EL to get better. It's a big gap between the 1.7L EL and the 2.5L TSX; if we're talking strictly sedan.
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Si sedan = EL... What's the marketing power behind the Si sedan?
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its basically an EL without leather, and other little amenities.
just another marketing strategy to get ppl to buy the 7thgen sedan before 8thgens come out in 2005
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The life cycle of the civic is 5 years a generation, right? So it's 2006 that will have the new model.
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If I am reading this correctly this is Canadian market only being discussed. Are you saying this SI sedan will have the 160hp engine from the current SI hatchback? I'd like to have that engine in the EX coupe as an SI coupe. That would be a nice combination.
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I doubt it...

Having the 160hp engine in the sedan means they must have that same engine in both manual and auto transmission.... With an engine that high strung, you think they can pull it off by mating it to an auto? I hope so, but I doubt it.

And, an EL with no leather == EL Touring edition.....

There's just no market space for the SI Sedan....!? Only thing I can think of are the would-be buyers of Honda Civics.... Instead of telling them to go to Acura for a higher end sedan, the sales people can now push what they have, the SI Sedan.

The luxury sub-compact sedan market is really really small... Supposedly only Canadians appreciate the added expense of leather, etc. in a small sedan.... We'll see...

Originally posted by LDB
If I am reading this correctly this is Canadian market only being discussed. Are you saying this SI sedan will have the 160hp engine from the current SI hatchback? I'd like to have that engine in the EX coupe as an SI coupe. That would be a nice combination.
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The 7th gen sedans have sway bars.. look under the car.
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Originally posted by FurBall
I doubt it...

Having the 160hp engine in the sedan means they must have that same engine in both manual and auto transmission.... With an engine that high strung, you think they can pull it off by mating it to an auto? I hope so, but I doubt it.
They can and they have mated the K20A3 with an automatic transmission.... the RSX.
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If Suburu could do it back in 1992 with their SVX.. I'm sure Honda can do it.
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Where did you get info that there is going to be an Si Sedan? I doubt it, they have it in the US because they dont' have the EL. If they make an Si Sedan then the EL would be phased out.
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yap slammed is right, just saw the commercial, anyone know whose supped up Inca they used in the commercial?
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i work @ honda, thats how i know
i have the 2004 honda civic brochure, and there r pics of it!!!
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yeah, i saw the commercial too. but it just doesn't make sense to me why they would bring a sohc vtec sedan when the EL is available. They would be competing with themself (honda vs. acura). Unless there is a major change with the 2004 EL. Has anyone heard anything?
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Honda might be planning to discontinue the EL soon (maybe in the 8th gen)
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awww the EL's are so nice though, my dad has a 1.7 and I love it.
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Originally posted by FurBall
I doubt it...

Having the 160hp engine in the sedan means they must have that same engine in both manual and auto transmission.... With an engine that high strung, you think they can pull it off by mating it to an auto? I hope so, but I doubt it.

And, an EL with no leather == EL Touring edition.....

There's just no market space for the SI Sedan....!? Only thing I can think of are the would-be buyers of Honda Civics.... Instead of telling them to go to Acura for a higher end sedan, the sales people can now push what they have, the SI Sedan.

The luxury sub-compact sedan market is really really small... Supposedly only Canadians appreciate the added expense of leather, etc. in a small sedan.... We'll see...
Actually an auto tranny works rather decently with the 160hp K20 motor, as evidenced by the automatic versions of the RSX premium and base models. My mom has an auto tranny RSX and I find it to be a blast to drive, much more power than my EL.

I do agree though that the Si sedan seems to be somewhat of a bad move on the part of Honda Canada in that they will now be competing against themselves for sales (Civic Si sedan vs. Acura 1.7EL). For years (since the EL came out in 1997) they didn't offer a SOHC VTEC powered Civic sedan for this very reason. In the long I think Honda may stand to lose money on this plan in that potential EL buyers will go for the cheaper price tag of the Si sedan over the 1.7EL.
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Old Sep 25, 2003
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And then the EL gets discontinued, then our cars get more and more desirable, right Mark?
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Just saw the commercial too. I think the civic that passed the new 4-door si was orangey yellow. But yeah, finally a 4 door civic si.
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is anyone actually interested in an si sedan?
like, anyone on thsi site who have family members, or friends that interested???

cuz, it just seems kinda pointless to me, for honda to do this when they already have a sohc vtec sedan in the EL
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i guess honda wanna introduce sohc vtec in every civic, starting with this Si sedan as a entry level in a few yrs and than bring up the hps on the higher model
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I work at a local honda dealership, and all the sales people think that the Si sedan will sell very well! i guess we will just have to wait n see

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Sell very well? LOL... of course it will. But I don't think it will increase any sales. Did they lose that many sales due to the fact that it's missing 12 horsepower? I doubt it... I know as a fact that Si is barely quicker than LX (if at all), so in terms of test drive experience, it won't be all that different.

If anything, the new updated front face should stir up some new interest...
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Originally posted by MSoft
The life cycle of the civic is 5 years a generation, right? So it's 2006 that will have the new model.
no 4.
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