EX Head on Non-Vtec Block.
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EX Head on Non-Vtec Block.
I am 100% sure this has been covered or a similar topic but I just want to ask for anyone that might want to know. My first question is off topic but Is it possible to swap a 1.7 liter Vtec engine into an LX. I want an EX Engine!!! If not, can I swap the heads? Also, what is the best possible way to pull the most power out of the Non-Vtec 1.7 liter if the engine swaps are not possible. I have a Non-Vtec and I want to pull the most power out and as possible without having to lose the reliability of a daily driver. Please someone let me know cause I want power and I want to know how to get that!
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the v-tec on the ex is crap! and not worth it v-tec is only good in a dohc engine. i think the lx engine is better than the ex ive stomped on alot of ex's on the st, canyons, and the track. b4 u ask i have a 2k2 4dr lx 5-speed with a couple of bolt on's. you'r best bet is to get a turbo kit. i would recomend the SF kit its just sick!!! or do a full k20 swap, and ofcorse a lil laffing gas dosent hurt like a 50shot. if you want to go the n/a way your going to have to wait on a couple more things for inside our engines to come out. but as of now, if u have the $$ go get ur head pNp, get a ems system like the AEM one not jet chip thats garbage get a header full exgaust, intake recomend the injen sri and a apex S-AFC so u can get better air flow and response and then ofcorse all the lil iish like plugs, shortshifter things like that. but ill tell u this if u go the n/a way its going to cost u a pretty penny. ive done my reserch cuzz im going to go n/a as much as posible and see what i can get out of this lil d17. right now i do the 1/4 in 16.1 with just a couple of blot on's and crap *** tires. so i hope this helps
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The only thing that seperates the D17 in an EX from the D17 in a DX/LX performance wise is 4th gear. A good driver in an LX can beat a bad driver in an EX in the 1/4 but once the EX hit's 4th gear, it's over for the LX. I don't know why. It could be because of various things such as:
1. 4th gear requires more torque and overall more power which the EX has - this is where it shows.
2. ECU
3. Gearing (4th gear in my EX lands pretty high in the RPMs compared to the other gears.)
4. All of the above
These were the results from my DX vs LX vs EX race.
It's not because it's a VTEC engine. All the VTEC does in the EX is save gas so don't think too highly of the EX engine. Other than that, it just sounds a bit different and is a little louder than non-VTEC engines. Keep your D17A1 and take advantage of parts like the Kamikaze header. Or just swap a K-block in there.
1. 4th gear requires more torque and overall more power which the EX has - this is where it shows.
2. ECU
3. Gearing (4th gear in my EX lands pretty high in the RPMs compared to the other gears.)
4. All of the above
These were the results from my DX vs LX vs EX race.
It's not because it's a VTEC engine. All the VTEC does in the EX is save gas so don't think too highly of the EX engine. Other than that, it just sounds a bit different and is a little louder than non-VTEC engines. Keep your D17A1 and take advantage of parts like the Kamikaze header. Or just swap a K-block in there.
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Or just swap a K-block in there.
Or just swap a K-block in there.
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Rep Power: 0 I think my best bet would be to go Turbo. At www.turbodiscounters.com, they offer almost everything I would need for my car. Turbo Kit, Fuel Management, Intercooler, Turbo Manifold, Pistons, Blow Off, Fuel Pressure Regulator, and intercooler. Right now in my car I have A Custom Mendrel Bent 2.25 Exhaust Pipe with a Carbon Fiber R-1 Muffler, Ground Control Coilovers but I was thinking about going with a Tein Coilover Damper Kit, Intake, Headers, Front Upper, Rear Upper and Rear Lower Struts, And thats about it. I never had much faith in my car But I am going to try to give it a makeover. I wanted originally 175 from my car cause I wanted to be able to keep up with a Sentra Spec-V atleast. But I don't know how realistic is 170 on the non-vtec and to have to go all motor. Please help me out everyone. I want to know how I can get to 170. What parts do I need. Where can I find em? Help me out. I am also going to try to submit pictures of my car. It is a 2K1 Black 4DR, Black Tint, 18" Rims, and a small sound system (Panasonic MP3 Stereo, and 6.5 Pioneer Premier 200watts all around connected to a 600 Watt Kenwood Amp. Thanks again for your help everyone.
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Rep Power: 0 Ok, In General, if everyone can pretty much tell me what to put on the car, I will put it on. Tell me what I need for 175HP and I will buy the parts and give frequent updates. This is going to be my Project car. All I really want is a fast, nice looking daily driver. I don't want to be ashamed of my slow civic. I atleast want to be able to keep up with a good amount of the imports out there.
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Rep Power: 0 And the SF Turbo kit is out for the 2001 Civic LX? I was looking at Turbo Discounters and that is a Garrett Turbo system. And Garrett Turbos are pretty good but I heard there is lag on the T25BB turbo kit. But where can I take a look at the SF Turbo kit?
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Rep Power: 0 I can get an entire EX engine, tranny, and ECU for like 600. I might as well try to have the whole assembly put in. Every company has parts out for the EX engine. It would be easier to fix up the EX engine and go all motor. Or I can keep my LX engine and PnP.
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Rep Power: 0 OK, assuming you have the engine and transmission pretty much the swap is dam straight forward. You use an RSX wiring harness to do the swap with no hassle but if you choose to use your current harness you are lacking 3 plugs which are the air fuel ratio sensor (first o2 sensor), air fuel ratio relay (except HX model) and the radiator fan switch. Or if you are to lazy you can wait for hasport to bring out their conversion harness that will cost you a pretty penny. The next thing would be acquiring a brake resevoir from a 92 civic if you don't feel like modifying the rsx one to fit. You need either civic si (ep3) axles or that off a 94+ gsr. You can use your rsx axles as well but need to chage the ends for 94+ gsr ones. You can also use rsx suspension which bolts right into place using rsx tie rod ends for those that urge 5 lug. When it comes to the ecu the rsx harness plugs right except for one plug which can be adjusted w/o a problem.
PS. For futher reference visit www.hasport.com and look it up in there ESK1 Swap Article.
PS. For futher reference visit www.hasport.com and look it up in there ESK1 Swap Article.
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Is it possible to swap a K-block in there? What would I need to complete that swap? I got my Civic LX for price. But I want to be able to put as much power into it as possible. So far i have mild bolt ons but I feel Like I'm getting nowhere. I looked at a turbo kit for the d17 at www.turbodiscounters.com but I am not even sure if it's worth it. My friend also recently crashed his 91 CRX. He damaged the front end but the repairs will cost him more than the car originally cost so he decided not to fix it and got a 67 Falcon with a 302. The engine was a B16A2 with a ported head, Fuel management, DC headers, AEM cold air, AEM cams, Custom exhaust, and Type R Intake Manifold. I was wondering if I can swap that engine in my car. He said he is willing to sell it to me for 3000. Someone please tell me what you think is best and what cost I am looking at. Thanks for your help.
Is it possible to swap a K-block in there? What would I need to complete that swap? I got my Civic LX for price. But I want to be able to put as much power into it as possible. So far i have mild bolt ons but I feel Like I'm getting nowhere. I looked at a turbo kit for the d17 at www.turbodiscounters.com but I am not even sure if it's worth it. My friend also recently crashed his 91 CRX. He damaged the front end but the repairs will cost him more than the car originally cost so he decided not to fix it and got a 67 Falcon with a 302. The engine was a B16A2 with a ported head, Fuel management, DC headers, AEM cold air, AEM cams, Custom exhaust, and Type R Intake Manifold. I was wondering if I can swap that engine in my car. He said he is willing to sell it to me for 3000. Someone please tell me what you think is best and what cost I am looking at. Thanks for your help.
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