adjust ignition timming
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i tried jet..i emaild them they said they dont retard timming, aslo MSD, my last option know is Haltech the E6K, i think thats what KMS used in their car. anyway..if you guys know somethin that can help me..
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Rep Power: 0 damn..KMS said that i sould try MSD so i think Haltech now is out of the question..damn damn damn!
what happens when you dont udjust the ignition timming for a 100 shot of N2O? (with a build engine)
what happens when you dont udjust the ignition timming for a 100 shot of N2O? (with a build engine)
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Rep Power: 0 your ignition timing is controled by your computer depend on rpm(crank rotation position sensor) the system advance itself as the rpms goes up
i believe you can advance and retard the timing of a system using the haltech e6k, but i believe it converts the car into a wasted spark direct ignition system, which isn't applied to our vehicles.
if you are not able to retard the syste, for nitrous, a couple things coule happen
1. nothing happens, the car runs just fine
2. the momentum of the crank still carries the piston over top dead center, and the detonation occurs advanced depend on rpms
3. the crank's momentum was not able to carry the piston over tdc, in that case, you are going to break something
someone correct me if i am wrong, i just started learning ignitions
i believe you can advance and retard the timing of a system using the haltech e6k, but i believe it converts the car into a wasted spark direct ignition system, which isn't applied to our vehicles.
if you are not able to retard the syste, for nitrous, a couple things coule happen
1. nothing happens, the car runs just fine
2. the momentum of the crank still carries the piston over top dead center, and the detonation occurs advanced depend on rpms
3. the crank's momentum was not able to carry the piston over tdc, in that case, you are going to break something
someone correct me if i am wrong, i just started learning ignitions
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Rep Power: 0 i am sure ignition timing can be done, probably with some sort of computers, i just don't know any as of now, others may but i don't.(maybe aem's engine management system?)
wasted spark direct ignition fires 2 sparks at a time, one spark for the cylinder that needs it, and another at the cylinder across from it, usually that cylinder is at it's exhaust stroke
wasted spark direct ignition fires 2 sparks at a time, one spark for the cylinder that needs it, and another at the cylinder across from it, usually that cylinder is at it's exhaust stroke
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Rep Power: 0 yeah..it sez i does, but im not sure if it would work on our cars, i asked KMS cause they had it in their car(100shot) but i didnt get a straight answer and he said he didnt like the way their car runs..i think he sed somthing you cant retard, so and i emaild Haltech havnt gotten a respons yet..
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Rep Power: 0 Yeah i realized that last night after reading up on it a bit....
http://sportcompactcarweb.com/inside...technology01a/
http://sportcompactcarweb.com/inside...technology01a/
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its about cam gears. it's actually a review on AEM's cam gears too. Helps out a bit.
its about cam gears. it's actually a review on AEM's cam gears too. Helps out a bit.
yvette, i believe our cars will adjust the timing of everything else according to the change of cam gears degrees, the adjustible cam gears are so much easier back in the older honda because they have distributor ignition, but now, we have computer controlled coil, the computer controls every aspect of our timing, it will retard and advance it's own timing curve according to the change on the cam gears, i see no point to spent the money on those cam gears, for our cars any way. i don't belive it will yeild anything significant either on the rsx. my instructors said he has seen computerized ignition timing adjust itself a full 200 degrees (back in the distributor days, he said the max was about 45) thus, you might actually limiting the car's by say, advance the cam degrees by 5 degrees (that's 10 degrees of crank shaft rotation) doing that may cause our ecm to freak and retard the timing to say.. 10-20 degrees ATDC(which pretty much neutralize anything you did to the cams, because the spark timing will be retarded, thus i won't even bother with the cam gears
just my 2 cents
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Rep Power: 0 So Id....you're saying that the suggestion that people make to retard the timing by approximately 1.5 when usung a larger than a 50 shot of nitrous on our cars would really be pointless?
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Rep Power: 0 Yeah I understand that much. 
As i told you before i read up on it a bit the other night.
But here's a possible solution. I don't remember if it's been mentioned previously within the confines of this thread...but MSD offers a product that can prolly help us in this. However...it's a bit pricey.
http://store.summitracing.com/produc...?p=3854&view=2
As i told you before i read up on it a bit the other night.
But here's a possible solution. I don't remember if it's been mentioned previously within the confines of this thread...but MSD offers a product that can prolly help us in this. However...it's a bit pricey.
http://store.summitracing.com/produc...?p=3854&view=2
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Rep Power: 0 i emaild MSD before..heres what they said..
Dear Sir,
Due to the individual coil/module assemblies in your vehicle we do not offer any products that will work on your vehicle.
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MSD Tech
Dear Sir,
Due to the individual coil/module assemblies in your vehicle we do not offer any products that will work on your vehicle.
Thanks,
MSD Tech
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Rep Power: 326 damn, on a previous response I saw, about Jet... I know you are looking at retarding your ignition so Jet is out of the question, but the response you got from them doesn't say they do not touch ignition timing, they do in fact ADVANCE it by 5 degrees. I have the Jert chip, its better for bolt-ons but a no-no for forced induction.
