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Exactly how much would you win by with a CAI?

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Old Jul 31, 2003
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Talking Exactly how much would you win by with a CAI?

Maybe this is kind of a dumb question, but if I had exhause and a CAI on my 5spd EX, how much would I win by (in car lengths) in a quarter mile race against a stock EX 5spd assuming that both drivers are equally as skilled? LOL this sounds like a purpose question for an experiment...
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depends on the brand of the parts... they're all pretty much the same... but i'd say like a win by a hood... either way, it'll be close...
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yah it wont be "oh crap hes pulling hard" kinda difference but you will see a small difference
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I actually pulled on my friend a car (he has a bone stock 2k1 LX sedan auto and i had (at the time) a 2k2 EX coupe Auto with just injen CAI, before the cai, i ALWAYS losed by a c ar length. After the CAI, i pulled on him by a hood. So in total, a car and a hood gain (and we raced countless times with the same results.
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About a hood length. You might shave .2 sec. off your 1/4 time.
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.2 secs with CAI and exhaust on a D17? I don't think so.
With CAI you already lose on low end power.
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yeah you will be lucky to get .002 off your time with a cai
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how do you lose low end power with a cai exactly?
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Originally posted by R3DL1N3
how do you lose low end power with a cai exactly?
Take a look at any dyno comparison...

The dyno chart that came with my K&N showed a small loss in low end with about a 4 HP gain in the high end.

Any CAI/SRI camparison dyno chart will show similar results.
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You would be lucky to shave off even .1 seconds in the 1/4 mile. Let's say you could perfectly run the two cars together, the CAI EX would win by probably half a car at most over the stock EX.
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Originally posted by slystad810
Take a look at any dyno comparison...

The dyno chart that came with my K&N showed a small loss in low end with about a 4 HP gain in the high end.

Any CAI/SRI camparison dyno chart will show similar results.
but the reason the CAI will still make the car faster is because where do you spend the majority of the 1/4 mile? On the top end, where there is a gain.
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i thot that CAI is good for low end torque and SRI for top end.
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No, CAI is best for mid/top end. SRI is ok for a little gain but is mostly for sound. If you are wanting performance, get the CAI. the SRI will help very little and even in some cases, HURT performance.
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Does it really matter? The truth is you will pull on him a little because of the CAI and less restrictive exhaust, but just like AltimaGuy03 said, not by a lot. (enough to win by a nose)
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omg... okay look. CAI takes away a little from the low end, and spreads a little to each part of the power band thus you have an overall increase in horsepower throughout the powerband. CAI doesnt make you slow... what an absurd proposition.
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Originally posted by n00dleboy
.2 secs with CAI and exhaust on a D17? I don't think so.
With CAI you already lose on low end power.
Yeah, but are you using low-end power to launch your car? If you are, you're definintely not going to get ahead in the race. With bolt ons you have to launch the car in the mid-range of RPMs, i.e. 4,000 so you can benefit from the high end power the bolt ons offer once the gears catch. As long as your tires don't spin, and you don't launch too high, you'll be fine.
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Cai All the way!
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I personally do not have a CAI i have a modified stock air box with a k&n filter, resonatorless catback exhaust bosch plugs and a centerforce clutch. I left a 98-00 ex with atleast I/H/E if not more. by the time i hit 60 i was at least a car length ahead if not more.
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