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Old Jul 2, 2003
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Finally a Supercharger for the 7th gen civic...well kind of...

Hey,
Thought that i would share some news i got from HASport, and Jackson Racing with you guys.
Now before you get your hopes up, there is a Supercharger for the 7thgen civic, but its only for those that have the RSX-S motor...sorry everyone else.
According to Brian Gillespie at HASport, in a 7th gen civic coupe or sedan, the Jackson Racing Supercharger for a new Civic Si will bolt up without problem. Clearance is not an issue, you will have more than enough room to fit the blower in the engine bay. Expect to see the same numbers on that blower that you see on the the blower for the TypeS, cause they are the same blower essentially. One is just mounted differently. That means, in the Race Version of the supercharger, you will see numbers like 254whp. Switch from a JR race header to a Comptech, and you will probably see more. They are also working on a kit that will raise the boost a little more...probably to around 8psi...meaning around 290whp.
Anways...juts thougtht that i would share. Sorry if i got someones hopes up that doesnt have the swap done. I was thinkin about it while i was typing this out, that we need a Swap Forum.
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IMO, that's no where near a blower for the 7th gen. It's a blower for a K20 engine that just *happens* to fit in any 7th gen with that engine.
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well, true, but when you drive by and people see a 7thgen civic, and hear the SC whine, then im sure people will think "cool, 7thgen civic with a blower"
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Nowhere did i say in the title of my thread "Finally a Supercharger for the D17"
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I'm Curious. Would a blown K20 7thgen get into the low thirteens(1/4 mile)?
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well the RSX-S on stock tires (which really blow), and the Race Version of the Supercharger ran a 13.7. Jackson Racing thinks with better tires (Drag Radials) would easily hit low 13's.
When they were testing with the stock tires, Oscar was burning through 2nd gear, and partly into 3rd. To give you an idea...he ran a 2.8 60' time on that 1/4mile run. Yea, sad, but with better tires that should go way down.
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First of all this info has been out for a while. second of all you should switch the title to for the engine swap civic. Cus it got my hopes up high.
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I personally thank you for the info. Just what I needed to know.
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if it's for those who swapped the RSX motor in to the civics, this has no link with D17 at all. not very surprised here. thought it was for the D17s,

guess not.
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i never said it was for the D17. 7thgen civic doesnt mean just the motor. But i am sorry for the confusion.
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jackson's results didnt impress me at all..
cybernation turbo is the way to go.
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of course it didnt impress you, you have the Si, i agree the numbers are weak for that car with this application. But 260whp isnt too bad just for 5psi. Get a better race header than the JR one that they tested with, and get the boost upgrade and you are seeing some serious numbers.
It just depends on what you like, whether that is a supercharger, or a turbo, or even NA. Different people feel differently about it.
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dont forget that a supercharger gives you power from the push of the pedal....no lag time.....
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How bad is lag time on an aftermarket turbo. I have never driven one. I know it would be different for different size turbines. I am looking for worst case.
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A small turbo like the T25BB (the one in the TB kit) will spool up very quickly. If this was used with an eqaul length turbo maifold (almost like the one in the SF kit) it will spool faster. Also the backpressure of the exhaust after the turbo is a factor in turbo spool up. A low backpressure creates a greater pressure differential, thereby spooling the turbo quicker. SO.... For our cars (D17) an optimal low boost setup with reduced spool-up would be the combination of an equal lenth tubular header, a small ball bearing turbo, and free-flowing exhaust. With a well thought out setup spool up should be negligable.

EDIT- Another thing to consider is intercooler size. A larger intercooler will cool the intake charge better. However, it's larger volume is harder to fill. That is a factor towards spool-up time. So in respect to turbo and intercooler size - bigger is not always better.

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Having driven both...

Having driven both a turbo K20 and a Supercharged K24 I would prefer the Supercharged car for fun, streetablilty and the ease of the installation. Now if brute force is what you are after, it is turbo all the way.

Remember the K24 supercharged car is stil in it's early stages of tune. I suspect we will have the car in the 325+ hp at the wheels by August. The turbo car should be in the neighborhood of 500 hp by September.

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I didn't belive it...you guys know the news about all the SC's they MIGHT make one eventually
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They should be out pretty soon.

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I say go with the Supercharger, I think if you go with the swap and supercharger you will have a better chance to pass emitions asweel, If you just go with the Turbo on our car it will not pass at all.
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Hey Brian,
Any news on when your wire harness for the swap is gonna be out? And how much its gonna cost?
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We are so goddam far behind on harnesses, I need to hire another wiring guy. So, no is the answer.
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