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I am curious if anyone else is planning on trying it over the winter....i'd hopefully have mine done by the early summer. just wondering if you plan on buying a kit or piecing a kit together? what your plans for the fuel system would be and what not? just curious

 
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I wouldn't do it....not with a D17

The internals need to be stronger, and you need to change your intake manifold. The stupid thing is plastic! There are kits out there right now, and they have been pushing good boost, but there are also a few horror stories. Make sure your ready to spend $$$$, and have another car to use in the mean time.

PS - nobody has done a proper intercooler for the 7thgen, there is very little space in front of the rad.

 
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I think the intake manifold will hold up for the amount of boost i plan on. the internals shouldn't be a problem as well....i'm going to use some common sence with this thing. i know what the engine can and can't do. it needs proper tuning. i found a good intercooler for the 7th gen its long and narrow so it does not cover the rad very much. so is anyone trying it or what?

 
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Why waste your time with a D17
There are a few on 7thgen that have done it with a 45-50hp gain
For that you might as well do NOS.

 
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^agreed

D17 is S h it....first of all, it is a ULEV = SSLLOOWW

It ain't gonna go fast no matter what you do. No offence, but if your gonna use some common sense, ditch the car and get something more sensible. Ex: 4 to 6 gen civics = B16/18 or Hybrids.

Oh.....I thought of it, as well as another member on this board (Sivic04)

We both now own cars that have Turbo stock
Cisco88 = A4 1.8t Quattro
Sivic04 = WRX

Reason for not doing the turbo? You need to do a lot of tuning with the engine after you install the turbo. ECU needs reprogramming, and what is the point of only pushing 5-7 psi and spending $4000? Unless you know someone that can build you a intake manifold and flange, it is pricey for the amount of gain. Yes, there are guys that are pushing 15-20 psi, but for only small amounts of time. You also need to upgrade your tranny, because the OEM stuff can't handle the extra power your gonna deliver it.

This isn't meant to rag on the 7thgen, but it is a car that is all show no go. Advice? Leave the car the way it is and enjoy it, if you want a HP monster, buy one that was meant for it.

 
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your right i should sell it and buy a 240sx....

 
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or do a k20 swap...

 
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mmmmm...240sx...
once apon a time i contemplated doing a k20a2 swap, but after some reading, turbo is the way to go. no where near as costly or time consuming, and besides, turbo has proven to respond well with our engines and is quicker when it comes to 1/4 mile times. there are people on this board doing low to mid 13's, and that ain't bad! what do rsx's with i/h/e run? like mid 14's? something like that. just my 2cents.

 
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A turbo on a D17 is a good idea but spend the money to do it right. And, keep within the limits of your stock engine. I thought about adding a Turbo to my civic but I ended up getting a different car instead.

 
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If you do it properly and invest a decent amount of money into a turbo you will be happy, talk to the guys on Civic Evolutions some of them have turboed D16s. They might be able to help you out. I was planning on doing a turbo setup, but I decided to make the car a autocross oriented car instead.

Site addie is Http://www.civicevolutions.com you will find most if not all of us are on that site as well.

 
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I guess one just has to think about certain things....like how fast are you going to be able to get a civic compared to a different car like a 240? rear wheel drive has so much more potential then front wheel....or all wheel like some of the other guys have gone to. I would love to sell my car but right now its not really an option since i still have warrenty(which is nice considering i'm a student) and i'm broke until summer.

 
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also i don't want to invest a bunch of money into something and still not run decent times. for instance if i invest 4000 or so into my car and was only running high 14's i would be pissed off. It would have been such a waste of money. I dunno what to do really.i don't want to sink a bunch of money into then decide its not what i want to do and then sell it and lose all of it.

 
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So, you'd rather spend money on a used 240sx, swap in a SR20 and then modify it? I guess if you want a fast car, buy a fast one. It's a lot of problems to modify a car and still maintain it's reliability.

Edit: Potential doesn't mean much. It's all in driver skill and in how the car is setup. Barely anyone drives their car to the limits anyways.

 
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There is a point where a driver cannot do anymore for a slow car. Agreed that modifying takes away from reliability. It all depends on what you want....I don't need to be the fastest car on the street but it would be nice to have some speed.

 
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Boo - That point is beyond the legal limits of the road though. Also, what kind of platform do you want? An auto-x car or a drag car?

 
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whats the fastest time with a d17 someone on here ahs ran?

 
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k i know i sound all confused and **** with this response but i want a well rounded car and i know thats alot to ask....An auto-x car is more reasonable though and more feasable. maybe nitrous on it for the strip. give me some input.

 
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i dragged @ bud park with high 16's to mid 17s b4, running totally stock including the crappy all seasons my car came with. har har har, that is why i switched to autocrossing, hopefully i will do better than i did this year.

 
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Personally the civic will have a better run in a autocross than in drag racing, mainly because drag racing is pretty much all car.(which as we all know the civic is not)

The driver needs to know how to have a good launch to get good times and shift properly.( I had shitty lauches and decent shifts, which is why i did so shitty)

Auto X is all driver, you might want to mod the suspension a bit (lowering) stiffen up the chassis, and invest in some sticky tires and a racing seat. and practice practice. I seen some civics beat corvettes, and wrx at autocrosses. Stick to 15 inch wheels for autocrossing and make sure you use tires with high sidewalls and fill up the tires to 40 psi, that way you do not wear our the side walls when you are making those sharp turns.

 
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wanna give some information on the auto-x events in our area?

 
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The season is over the last event was in sept. Season will start up in march/april. When I find the link I will post it here. If you go the http://www.civicevolutions.com site and select track there is more about auto x. Trust me it is way more fun than drag racing because you have to work harder and turning at 90 kph is always fun.

 
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i thought about making the civic fast too. but you have to upgrade the drivetrain (more power + new clutch), the suspension (Konis + GC, or Teins which rust), the brakes (if your going fast, you should be able to stop too. your brakes are intended for 100whp and driving the speed limit, not 200+ whp and ripping around). you need tires. and probably lighter and slightly bigger wheels. so now you've spent a good 10k, and it's still a civic inside, and you wont get your money back. Buy a faster car IMO.

 
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So i'm already planning on new springs, progress sways bars(front and back), neuspeed front strut bar, new tires. What else would be a good upgrade for auto-x? what are some of the basic rules as far as how you set up your car?

 
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auto-X for sure next year, im with you renny! lots of work to do b4 then but oh well. got my rear sway and 2 racing seats on the way. hopefully in the new year i can get most of the stuff i want/need for next season of auto-x. soon its time for storage tho

 
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is it probably recommended to get a racing seat or would a racing harness work?

 
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racing seat helps, but I find the stock seats are pretty good, you just have to twist the seatbelt so it is tighter than normal.

Yeah denis I am with you on the Auto X foo sure.

 
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Don't forget that the best piece of equipment in your car is the driver. Your s hi t atta luck if you can't drive and shift. Practice heel-toe shifting to improve your speed out of turns. Teach yourself threashold (sp)braking, and try not to lock your tires at any point. Racing seats and a 4 point racing harness pin you down and decrease your body slide when your in turns, normal seats do not provide enough support.

I'm gonna try auto-x next year, and I already know what car to get (might be the Audi, but I already have a different car). I won't enter unless my car is fully setup, I'm not a person to do something half-assed. I think Laurence should auto-x, cause his car is setup decently.

Short Shifter, lowered on coilovers w/ koni yellows, and I'll donate racing tires this year to the 7thgener who enters in auto-x's.

 
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I think your first step should be auto-x your car when it's stock and seeing what is needed from there. Usually, suspension(full coilover setup) and tires should be your first priority. Then, learn to drive your car all over again.

 
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agreed with blown, run it stock......see how you handle. remember when it comes to Auto X it is not about HP it is about handling, you will probally never switch out of second gear, unless there is a long straight which is very rare. Remember stay with 15 inch tires or smaller, any larger you will lose handling. I cannot wait till next season...one other thing you need a DOT and Snell 2000 approved helmet, I bought mine and took off the visor since there is no need for it.

 
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I'm definitely getting into it in the spring. How many of you guys go on a regular basis?