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Old May 3, 2003
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any dyno numbers on this kit? And the rubber sleeves can they be purchased in red i got a whole color scheme going
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Originally posted by xmeeksx
will this pass emission? because they are strict here in VA
thats the only thing im afraid of too!
i think ill get on this by the end of summer!
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i could be wrong but that dosn't look lick a 2002 civic to me.it has a distributor,and the wrong manifold
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Originally posted by SFpower
i could be wrong but that dosn't look lick a 2002 civic to me.it has a distributor,and the wrong manifold
thats not an actual picture of the turbo its there car and he posted to show an example of theie work. Its an accord i believe
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well, they should show a picture of their turbo kits that they sell for our cars, instead of a show car. We want to see the stuff they sell, not the stuff they show. There is a big difference.

and i just thought of something, if their kit makes 56% more horsepower than stock, that would be 182 hp at the flywheel.
The turbo on my car made 228 horsepower at the flywheel estimated by a REAL DYNO, that is a 95% increase over stock.

Also, i saw that our cars make 99 hp at the wheels stock, i made 165 at the wheels through my stock exhaust. That is a 66% increase over stock. and since then, i have upgraded to an aftermarket exhaust, and gained a noticable amount of power.

hmm..... I think that 66% @ 6psi is a little better than the 56% their kit is estimating.
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so where are you estimating the increase? At the crank or at the wheels?
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wow, they jacked up the price on all the turbos, it was all $2800 last time i saw.
would get one if i had 5 speed, but waiting for a swap to 6 speed, staying with N/A
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I got any email today saying that they had finished it and that it was out, anybody going to get it, or do you even think it is worth getting? Ive put off bying certain in hopes of maybe a getting a turbo? http://www.TurboDiscounters.com/html/Turbo-Honda.aspx
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I got the e-mail also... does anyknow know if they have any dyno numbers for both EX and LX (stock with just the turbo)?
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woohoo!!! now i can be that cool guy at the car shows saying "my car has a injen cool air intake(cool, not cold ) , nitrous injection, it has a garret t25 BALL-BEARING turbo" just like jessie in tfatf!!!
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So will this work for an Auto 2k1 LX
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OMG I am so buying one. 1900 more dollars to go
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sounds good I have an auto lx auto too, so Im wondering how that would work.
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im interested in this kit, but i just wanna see some numbers so i have a good idea of what it can do
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for an automatic you just need to buy a BIG tranny cooler
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no dyno numbers yet, they look like nice kits but the turbo neweds to be bigger, i might go with the SF turbo and get some custom piping
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Wow! This is great news for all those who want to go boosted. Does anyone know all the parts that go with this kit? I know the extreme kit comes with an intercooler but what does it use to solve the fuel management with our returnless system? Thanks.
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Originally posted by RedDragon333
any dyno numbers on this kit? And the rubber sleeves can they be purchased in red i got a whole color scheme going
No, no dyno numbers yet. And the sleves only come in blue, sorry.

Originally posted by Catalyst
so where are you estimating the increase? At the crank or at the wheels?
At the crank

Originally posted by CivicVTec
wow, they jacked up the price on all the turbos, it was all $2800 last time i saw.
We didn't change prices on any turbos, but we did add T25BBs as an option for many of the T25 kits that we had. Those are naturally higher.

Originally posted by sawgunner06
So will this work for an Auto 2k1 LX
It'll work for any D17A. For some of the models you may need to modify the downpipe. Take it to a mufler shop - they should be able to handle it no problem.

Originally posted by Diemos
OMG I am so buying one. 1900 more dollars to go
Check out the group buys forum.

Originally posted by 01blackCVC
Does anyone know all the parts that go with this kit? I know the extreme kit comes with an intercooler but what does it use to solve the fuel management with our returnless system? Thanks.
Check out the second question on our FAQs page. It provides a link to the comparison chart for the two kits.

As for fuel the Extreme kit comes with injectors and an injector control unit. Completly adjustable on the fly. See this page for details.
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Originally posted by RoadRunner
the only thing that worries me, is are those brand name parts, or just cheap pos's.
The turbos are Garrett, the number one selling turbos in the world. The fuel injectors have been awarded a patent, the manifold is high nickel composite cast. The manifold has a 5 year warranty, everything else has a 1 year warranty. Our kit is made of good, high quality components.

Originally posted by LJ
What size intercooler core?
500 x 150 x 85
If you buy the Superior kit, we sell it as an add on.

Originally posted by iamboo
i don't think bigger injectors would do it for me...
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, the kit comes set to 6 lbs of boost. You can adjust it up to 15 or 16. Our patent award winning fuel system can handle it. You can adjust how long the injectors stay open, so if you do use 16 pounds of boost, you'll get the fuel to feed it. (should go without saying that you wouldn't do 16 lbs on a stock motor) You can also adjust for things like outside temperature, humity, elevation, etc. from the cabin on the fly. We're not just throwing some injectors into the cycle because we know we need fuel to compensate for the extra air, it's been thought out to give a very effecient performance increase.

Originally posted by iamboo
are you sure?? cause there needs to be different downpipe sizes for the kits seeing how the cats on the LX/DX are different from the cat placement on the EX...
The kit will work with any D17A, but some Civics may need to have the downpipe modified. Take it to any muffler shop and they should be able to whip something up without much trouble.

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Would it matter if the car is an auto or manual?
Nope
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how much is it just for the manifold???
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can we run 16psi with our returnless fuel system if we us your kit? or does the fuel system need be modified?
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Originally posted by Spider883
how much is it just for the manifold???
Sorry, only selling them as kits right now.

Originally posted by dober
can we run 16psi with our returnless fuel system if we us your kit? or does the fuel system need be modified?
Is that first "our" supposed to be a "your"? Because our system has a fuel return. So, to answer your question, no the fuel system does not need to be modified, but at 16 lbs, you're going to want to modify... well, everything that can't handle 16 lbs. Our kit can handle it, just _please_ make sure your car can before you run something that high!

If it's not a typo, and you are using your own returnless fuel system and want to know if you need to modified that fuel system, then I dunno. That's really a question only you can answer. You'd need to give me more information.
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i wasnt aware your system had a return. people say that the returnless fuel system on the 7th gen civic can only handle so much boost. i just wanted to know if your fuel controllers help our returnless fuel system pump more fuel that it normally could to the engine.

of course i wouldnt boost 16psi on a stock engine lol

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As I am sure you know everyone would like to know the WHP numbers of this kit. So it would be nice if you posted them

Well the Superior kit gives a 30% increase in horse at the CRANK like you said. So doing the math : 127 (crank EX power) * 30% = 38.1 So the Superior kit will only give me 40 horsepower which will total to 127+38.1 = 165.1 AT THE CRANK.......an Si has 160 at the crank so I'm not that impressed with those #'s.

Then theres the Extreme kit that gives a 56% increase at the CRANK. Doing the math once againg 127*56%= 71.2 increase in horse. So the extreme kit will give 127 + 71.2= 198.12 AT THE CRANK. So your car will have as many horse as a Stock Type S.

So you decide if its worth the money $2,100.00 for 165.1 CRANK horsepower

OR $3,120.00 for 198.12 CRANK horspower.

If the #'s at the crank were at the wheels then maybe this kit would be something to get excited about. But at least they are starting to make kits.

I think I am gonna stick to my Si (EP) swap. Since its a hell of alot cheaper than the Type S swap

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Originally posted by dober
i just wanted to know if your fuel controllers help our returnless fuel system pump more fuel that it normally could to the engine.
Ah, I get it now! They don't help the stock pump, no, but our Extreme kit comes with extra injectors that add fuel to the mix. This extra fuel is a great compliment to the boost.

Originally posted by dober
of course i wouldnt boost 16psi on a stock engine lol
I had a guy at our SEMA IAS booth a couple weeks ago wanting to know the absolute max boost he could get. When I asked he said he had a completely stock engine! But he was adamant that he wanted to run 15 or 16 lbs. Scary.
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oops

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THAT SETTLES IT!!! i'm just going to get a exhuast, and coilovers and thats it! no more wasting money on petty bolt ons, i NEED turbo!! perhaps i can sell my camcorder for a cool 2k and that would only be 1k-$1200 more i would need! oh man, i want to cry i'm so happy!

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"the kit adds up to 56 horsepower if you go extreme.the kit will be here
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15th.if you are serious pre order to avoid further delays thx brett"


...for 3,120 you only get 56 + hp ? ...in a year, that turbo price will go down..just wait, invest the money somewhere else, go custom rather then this...56 my ***..
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Originally posted by 5PEED EX
the kit adds up to 56 horsepower if you go extreme...
...for 3,120 you only get 56 + hp ?
That should be 56 % more horsepower.

If you look at ViNRoCk8's math above, you'll see that brings a stock Civic from 127 hp to 198 hp at the crank.

That's at 6.5 lbs of boost with the Extreme kit.
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"The design of a turbo actually makes the car run cleaner, however you are modifying the way your exhaust system works and the smog guys don't always like this. Check with other drivers in VA and see what they went through when they had to test smog."

i can't really check with other drivers in VA since no one has this kit in my area. but it would be nice if you get let me know if you find out whether it will pass or not?
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