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So apparently, according to many shops up here, swapping an old engine into my 2005 Civic is apparently not a problem in terms of street legality. Not to mention, I have never had a cop pull me over and ask to see my engine...

Anyway, to the point, I am planning on swapping in a B18C ITR or a B16B CTR into my 2005 Civic. Reason being that I can't stand the D engines and I love these other two engines. Question being, I need mounts obviously since this is not a "normal" swap, so does anyone know of a place that makes mounts for crazy swaps like this? I also wanted to know if anyone knows of any clearance issues with this sort of swap. From eyeballing it, it didn't seem like there would be much trouble, but I thought I'd ask since I wasn't really able to find much by searching. Also, I have been told that turbos on VTEC engines are not smart since it's way too much strain on the internals to have the boost with the VTEC and I was wondering if there is any true merit behind said statement since I get mixed opinions about it. On the flip side, I was also told that only VTEC engines have the internals to handle said boost. Anyone able to fill me in on what is actually correct? I am not usually an FI person, hence why I don't know.

I realize this is a pain in the rear swap but that's going to be what makes it so fun. At least it isn't as crazy as trying to do a RWD conversion with a rotary... Why don't I do a K20? Cause I didn't think that $2k more was worth 20 more HP when a few tiny mods will give me 20 more HP...

So yes, any answers to my questions and/or advice welcome. =)

 
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1. Totally Custom. Good luck with that.



2. 2k more for K20? More like 4K Less. I bet you this will run in the 10K range for this swap. EVERYTHING IS CUSTOM. There's 2 B-Series EM2 swaps in existance...Search for them. One IIRC is an salt flats racer that had a destroked B16. Pretty sure his username is Mirage

 
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it is illegal. read the law. whether cops check for it or not its illegal for street use.

good luck with trying it tho

 
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Illegal in the states? I don't live in the US btw... Anyone I have talked to so far has said that they never have heard of it being illegal in Canada.

 
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Legality is the least of your concerns....

 
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I am willing to splurge on this one

 
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Wait...You start out saying you wanted to save the 2k, and now you're willing to spend 6K more then you originally wanted? Alrighty then. Keep us updated.

 
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seriously.......get a k-swap IF you really want to change your D17...a LOT of info bout it, you should be ok with that..search ftw

 
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it's not illegal if its from a 2001 integra and you have a 2001 civic.

and it's also not worth it. k swap would be cheaper and smarter.

 
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also, whoever told you that you shouldn't boost vtec b-series motors is stupid. it's all in the tune.

 
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Alrighty then, that clears up that matter, thanks.

 
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K swap or turbo the D series or buy a beater that is all.

 
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didnt notice you were from canada. that was my bad.

good luck with the endevor tho! you have your work cut out for you. but trying new things keeps the sport interesting so good luck!

 
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LOL A B SERIES SWAP IN OUR CARS will run more then a k series .. u must be nuts thinking of going with B over K ... save money both ways and boost the bitch cuz boost>NA natural *******s lmao

 
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It's going to take a hell of a shop to do this work... Like Hondercivic said, there's only been two, and I can only think of one. But that car was built by AEM with corporate backing.

The biggest issue is those engines just won't fit under the hood. It's not a matter of buying the mounts, it's just to get the axles and transmission to line up you won't be left with enough space to close the hood. At least that's what I've been told.

There's a very, very good reason this hasn't been done before. It's going to cost money out the *** for marginal performance gains.

 
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someone explain to me this picture then. doesn't look like a corporate backed car to me. i also been curious bout this swap. everyone says it wont work. im sure thats what they use to say bout the k20 in a crx

 
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That would suck to do all that work and then have some theif steal it for the B! lol

 
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Eh that dude did a lot of crap to get that in there.

The problem isn't that it CAN'T be done, the problem is that it will cost more than a K20. Just like it is easier to swap a B into a crx rather than K. It isn't that neither can be done, but it will cost more. ****, one dude put a LS1 in his EG. Anything can be done with the right amount of time, knowledge, and money.

I don't see how swapping a K engine would result in only 20 more HP and don't see how swapping a B engine will result any more than 20 more HP.

The only one I know is DelSolid aka Mirage aka John Ramero
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/6...1-825-mph.html
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...eed_Record.htm

here's what you have to do to get it to work
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1320602

 
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what kind of timeline are we talking?

year(s)?

 
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cost of k is cheaper. I just picked up a great K20 for 550, with 44k on it, its just the longblock, but all I need now is the tranny, and P/s. I am not running A/c due to it being supercharged, so thats ok. I got the half shaft and axles for 150 shipped to my door. I think I have spent less than $2K and have a little more to go. The B18C5 and B16B cost over $3,500. I am ahead of you already in terms of cost and will be quicker for the said price in the end.

 
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thats a deal. i've been looking at complete k20a2 swaps and they are running anywhere from $3,600 to $4,600. thats a big chunk of change. b18 are cheaper in my area. i work @ a metal shop. im around cnc, welders, and fabricators all day. im very tempted to ask for there knowdledge. me myself im a press brake operator

 
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nice k20a2 swaps can be found for cheap if you don't limit yourself to hmotorsonline, tigerjapanese, etc.

 
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Correct, a little site called K20a.org is where I got mine

 
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Your like the kafilionth person to ask about this swap.......... NEXT!

 
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this is a photoshop. notice how some parts of the motor is blurred, and how some of the chassis is also blurred. its an ok photoshop, but a modified pic non-the-less. also, notice how the HKS blow off valve is at a weird angle... theres no way that someone installed it like that.

 
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I was going to say that ^ that pic looks shitty

 
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just buy a old *** 5th or 6th gen for $1k. Buy a b18c1 for $2k. Swap is around $500.

For $3500 you have a low 14second car and a daily driver.

Who ever told you, you can't boost a B-series vtec. Stop listening to that person now. They know nothing about honda engines.

 
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I love the B18C engines. I have one in my 94 GS-R (B18C3 OBDI) and its hella fast(er) than my civic ha. I pull 70 in 2nd in ways i wish my civic could as well lol. Id take the B18C over the B16B just because. i mean 190HP and 127ft-lb and a 8000+ redline. Mmm

 
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b18c3? did you buy it as crate motor? 94 gsr engines are b18c1's.

 
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