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hey guys, sorry if this has been covered, i searched everywhere. i've got two main questions. i'm planning to boost, would the k20a2 be the best k20 swap to do this with? i know greddy has a turbo kit for it. also, i'm having trouble finding the k20a2. i can find all the others but not the a2, does anyone have a swap site or something with the k20a2 on it?? thanks in advance!!

 
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I can already tell you wont have a K-Swap

1. You dont know what the hell engine is best for you
2. You're 17, i doubt you have $10-$15k to drop
3. I bet you dont even know what all you need for a K-Swap
4. Do you know of any local shops that can do K-Swaps

 
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i do know what k swaps are, i've been looking into it for a while. i am probably going k20a2 instead of k20a type r because i can swap and turbo for the price. i was wanting to get some advice from, considerate 7th gen members, but thanks for being an *******. if you want to get technical, i will recieve 10,000 when i'm 18, 5 months, from my grandparents will.

as far as knowing what i need for a k:

Mounts
Transmission
Distributor
Intake Mani
Alternator
A/C
Power steering pump
ECU with harnesses for respective motor
misc subframe parts
Intermediate shaft
Driveshafts
RSX Throttle cable
Shift Linkages
radiator and fans
RSX fuel lines
RSX Brake booster line
RSX EVAP purge lines
RSX clutch lines from master to slave cylinder


as well, since i'm auto:

shift linkages
shifter base
shift lever
clutch master cylinder
clutch slave cylinder
clutch cable
clutch pedal and its assembly

i already have a shop, who has done a couple of k swaps for some local hatches and who i, a 95 amd dsm gsx (pushing 400hp), an 05 gto, 2 supras (one pushing 700hp), various mustangs (at least 2 pushing 500hp) all go to

so....you get my drift

 
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thats good to hear that you are gonna spend the $10k you are getting from ur grandparents dying. I promise you, you will regret it! Your gonna want that money for college and many other things... if ur gonna drop $10k on your car for speed, you might as well save up a little longer and get a car that has more then 100whp stock... SAVE YOUR MONEY! im all for speed and performance but your spending money that shouldn't be spent on your car. Maybe save your own money and spend it on your car, but not from you grandparents dying...put it to something you'll want in 5 or 10 years from now or invest it! just some wise words from a college kid who knows how much your gonna wanna spend in a year.

 
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So what are you going to do about getting your power steering, a/c, immobolizer to work ? You know you need k-pro (i hope you knew that) does that shop tune k-pro ?

 
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haha sorry i forgot to say, i've already been accepted for a scholarship for a local college. it's gonna pay for 4 years(2 there, 2 for the college of my choice). plus i've been saving for college, so i've pretty much got all that paid for (planning on automotive engineering (already accepted too!!)). my grandparents left this because i didn't have a car and that's what it was for, but last october, i got my em2. thought i'd clear it up.

 
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yeah man, like i said, they've done k swaps before, they're the best around here, motor and body.

 
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shop name?

 
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crap, hang on, it's technical, i can tell you how to get there though. let me find it.

 
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Honestly dropping 10K on a car is just stupid. THINK ABOUT IT! Buy a new car if you want power. You can get a used civic SI for 8K or less. Bare in mind these swaps take weeks so you'd need a beater for a while. I doubt you'd spend 10K doing the whole thing bc you can find k20a2's for around 3 grand now a days but the fact of the matter is you are at someone elses mercy installing all this and they will rape you on the installation. I agree that you should save that money. Buy a new car or spend 4 grand and turbo your auto civic if you must desire some power. I hope you make a wise decision.

 
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You seem to don't know much about swaps either my friend. First of all, keeping the power steering is no problem. You just either have to cut a little hold under the hood skeleton OR get the EP3 EPS system with the idler pulley.

AC can be easily done with RSX lines OR EP3 lines ( require no modification).

as for kpro...you do not need a kpro to get your immobilizer to work buddy. You can bring it to a local acura dealership to have them reflash your keys to match the immobilizer from the PRB ecu from the type S. Or you can get kpro and simply turn off the immobilizer which will cause your "green key" light to keep on flashing. Either way i recommend having a local acura dealership reflash your keys.

I and many other members on this board can help this guy with his swap much better than you. There is a DIY on here about putting in a kswap into your car if you want to save 1000+ dollars on labor itself.

 
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hey guys WOAH!!!!! i didn't say i'm definitely swapping. i was just trying to find some more info, and yes i know they're not 10,000, i'm saying the swap will cost about 6-8 grand alltogether. plus another 3-4 for the turbo, down the road. but i might end up getting a gsx like my friend and working on that, along with my em2.

possibilities are in the air. you guys are on me like stink on crap. lol

 
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Well i've never done a k-swap only read a little bit about it.

Getting p/s isnt that difficult you can just use Ep3/rsx lines and make em longer, but there are a lot of members on here who are having troubls getting their a/c to work.

Why would he stick with the stock ECU and not get kpro if he's going to boost it than ? anyways k-pro + k20a2 with simple i/h/e can put down some very nice numbers in the 200-220whp's as oppose to about 170whp with stock

 
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as for you, you do not need all of the parts that you've listed. I've highlighted the ones you DO NOT need in red. Read up on this a little more so you can seriously consider your options.

I'm about almost 7K into the swap and when i'm done with it, it will be around a little over 8K for labor, parts, and upgrades.

Just read this and all your questions will be answered regarding the swap:


XproductionZ.com :: Ver. 3.0 - K20/K24 Swap into 7thgen Civic 2001-2005

 
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gummyworms was pwned. Talking all that crap to him about not knowing what he's talking about, when you really don't know what you're talking about. D5civic ftw! lol

Anyway, I say you go with a nice Integgy and mod that and your civic some. Would be baller. :]

 
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Well if you never done or read that much on a kswap then you should not be so hard on teh guy about not knowing much about it.

You don't have to make anything longer when you do power steering. What are you talking about. Some members have extended the high pressure power steering lines to run a little different since they do not like how the stock RSX power steering lines are run.

Getting AC to work is a matter of knowing how to route the lines. DriveToFast has got his AC lines from the EP3 to work with no modification what so ever. Anyone can always ask him for help in that department.

About the kpro. Your comment was that HE NEEDED KPRO just to get his immobilizer to work. So don't change your story now about he should get kpro since he's going boost. You simply said HE HAD TO HAVE KPRO. Which he does not.

If going boost, then kpro is recommended no matter what.

Don't change your story now. My comments above was based on everything you said before. You got pwned. Accept it and let it be.


As for the TOPIC STARTER. read that site i gave you. it will help tremendously

 
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Wow... i really don't care what you think. Like i said, i've never k-swapped only read slightly, i rather boost the d17 than have other problems occur and the long downtime

I stand by what i said, he wont have a swapped K.

 
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This is basically everything that you need and the cost of what I PAID for them. You can find some stuff cheaper and some you can't. Just like the hasport converted harnass that i got for free from a friend. well this is what you need man. hope this helps:


Axles from 02+ si................................................ ........$120
EP3 ac lines…………………………………………...$120
Subframe.......................................... ..........................$50
Hasport Mounts............................................ ..............$280
Buddy club short shifter……………………………....................….$111
Shifter Cables............................................ .................$50
02+ si radiator. ………………………………......................…………..100
flex-a-lite slim fans.............................................. ........$280
02+ si upper radiator hose..........................................$0
02+ si lower radiator hose...........................................$0
RSX Throttle cable............................................. .......0
RSX Clutch Line From slave to master.............................0
EP3 EPS……………………………………................................. ..$400
EP3 Idler pulley………………………………......................…………$85
Hondata KPRO.............................................. ............... $950
Hasport/Hybrid Racing Engine Harness................. $0
Injen CAI…………………………………………………$130
Megan header/test pipe………………………………..$175
Manual Pedals…………………………………………...$40
Manual Cluster…………………………………………..$40
Master/slave cylinder……………………………………$30
Complete k20/k24 motor changeover………….….3500
RSX header/cat/O2sensors…………………………0

 
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well GUMMYBEAR no one really cares what you think since you simply don't know crap about what you're talking about and you know you got owned. AGAIN i say, if you didn't know anything about the subject then you should not have made yourself seem all educated on the subject. So let it be buddy.

I myself, still have much to learn about this too. So i'm no expert.

once again another un-educated comment regarding the turbo. Boosting the D17 will bring more problems in the long run than a SWAPPED car(if done right on the swap of course). A swap type S motor is as reliable as an acura type S itself taking in consideration that you have a good mechanic install it. Or you beter know how to install it yourself. Long downtime will only depend on whose doing the labor. Dru106 on this board done his swap in 2 days. If you know what you're doing then it will not take that long. So once again.............................LET THINGS BE since you KNOW CRAP!

But other members on here have taken months to complete their swap, thast only bc of waiting for parts and little obstacles that CAN BE OVERCOME with good planning.

THANK YOU

 
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Dru did the swap with friends who already done a k swap before, there was a member on this board who did a k20z1/turbo swap and it took him about 6 months.

it's all in personnal prefrence of what you think is more reliable.

D17 + .4 bar = more reliable IMO WHy?

I wont have to deal with rattles that involve with teh hasport mounts
I dont have to worry about "was my engine abused previously?" yea you can do compression tests on the engine make sure its in good shape but who really does that?

Gotta deal with paperwork when getting your key reflashed if you go to acura or with the garage that does the swap to make sure nothing is stolen

there have been a lot of members who's swaps have taken several weeks to months, so just because drew did it in 2 days doesn't mean evryone's does.

 
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first, what does rattles and hasport mounts have to do with reliability? Your reply about the reliability issue has nothing to do with RELIABILITY at all.

Apparently you think you can simply slap on a turbo and you're done. Do you even know what it takes to maintain a turbo?? apparntely you do not. A lot of members on here that are swapped have been turbo'd first. I wonder why they made the switch. I'm sure that it was because the turbo was much much more reliable.

second, please read the last line on my comment AGAIN. PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU POST. Please please read my last comment and correct yourself on your comment on the down time statement

I have already mention that it all depends on whose doing the labor on your car. It all depends on whose doing the labor and how it will take.

the member who took a long time to do this swap was on a K20Z1 like you said, which requires differnt wiring than the A2. Its much more complicated. Also he was going turbo and he also dropped off his car at a shop that was very reputable which gave his car less hands on work time throughout the day.

Your comment said it as if everyone takes a long time to do swaps. My comment just stated that dru did his in 2 days which means that ITS POSSIBLE to do it within 2 days to a week. So don't try to correct me when you're the one that does not read and keeps on being wrong about this issue.

LET IT BE AND GO AWAY. you're wrong and thats it



as for the turbo and swap car reliability.

Please ask everyone on this board which is more reliable. I don't care what way you look at it. Ask which one is more reliable. You're simply clueless my friend. A turbo car will never be as reliable as an NA vehicle.

Please do ask everyone on this board on which is more reliable. you're such a noob and you keep on acting like you know what you're talking about. let it be man....let it be....

 
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Why would i really read all of your posts if i dont care.

He'll be too annoyed by the rattles he'll wish he never swapped in the first place.

he's never done the swap before, the shop has but they will likely run into problems so im sure his car will be in the shop for a month

and im done for the night scrubs is on, you can have fun with your K ill have fun with my D

 
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You go have fun with your D. Tell me when it breaks due to your lack of knowlege about being turbo charge, which i'm sure you're not.

There is a diff. between being turbo'd and wnating to be turbo'd

 
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If you didn't care you would have shut up a long time ago and dropped it. How do you know they will run into problems? Maybe they've done a lot of swaps before. It might not even take a month, it all depends on experience with it and how much they know about it and what not. Like he said, Dru did his in 2days. Anything is possible.

Edit: And wtf? 7posts? And you come onto the boards and TRY to rag on people and you don't know crap? Yeah...GTFO!

 
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the D wont break with .4 - .6 bar, if anything the intake mani would go at like 10-12psi

I'm not a stupid user who buys an ebay kit then expects it to work. It's all peiced together

esebomb_ftw wait, who are you? do you even know anythingabout K's or D's ? or a Em2 to begin with ?

commercial break on Office Space, weak

 
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Lol as it says, if you can't read...I am estebomb_ftw. And I don't know much about K's, but I'm not the one trying to be a ****ing smarta*s about it and don't know crap. It'd be different if I was talking crap to him though about it. But I'm obviously not? Now am I? Lol do I know about D's or even a em2? Lol. This fuc*ing guy. You need to go curl up in a corner and die so everyone will be happy. It's people liek you why I hate reading threads in this forum. You think you're smart, try to act smart, try telling off someone, then someone tells off you because you don't know crap and you get pissed. The guy obviously said he searched and found some stuff on it. Then you come with your 1post and try to be an *******. Stfu, go fuc*in die. And go learn some grammar you moron. I'd be ashamed if I was 22 and typed like that.

 
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So all that summed up basically means you're D5civic's butt buddy? or a person who likes to tag along another member who knows what he's talking about just to agree with him so it seems like you know what you're talking about.

Sad kids, obviously this is a fake name.

 
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Lol I don't even know him. **** you, you talk about butt buddies all randomly, you're probably the gay one. And I'm not tagging along actually. I was actually going to post earlier before he even posted. But, didn't feel like starting crap and I thought you'd shut up...but you insisted on carrying on. And how am I trying to tag along with him to make it look like I know what I'm talking about. The only thing I mentioned that about him, was about Dru doing it in 2days.

Sad, 22years old. Shitty grammar. Me telling you that you have shitty grammar. You trying to fix it. You still getting pwned by grammar. Go back to school ******.

 
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Why are you getting so offensive? Which part of fake name didnt you get? im really 67, wewt im older then pon55! oldest member on site, or am i ? lol dumbass, beleive everything you read?

 
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Lol 'cause people like you **** me off. Fake name or not. Yeah, I must be a dumbass 'cause I type better than you and read better than you.