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its a b series and all b series blocks are the same. different sleeves will make the displacement. you can take a b16 and sleeve it with 84mm slugs bumping the displacement to 2.0l if you like and its still a b16 if you use the same rotating assembly or at least stock sized rods. your being rediculous and petty. actually a b16 crank is probably the best to use for the higher hp builds because you dont make power until top end so it helps with traction.
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its a b series and all b series blocks are the same. different sleeves will make the displacement. you can take a b16 and sleeve it with 84mm slugs bumping the displacement to 2.0l if you like and its still a b16 if you use the same rotating assembly or at least stock sized rods. your being rediculous and petty. actually a b16 crank is probably the best to use for the higher hp builds because you dont make power until top end so it helps with traction.
you made the accusation that b16's cant make 800whp.
do you know what mean piston speed/rs ratio is?? using a 84mm sleeve/bore with the stock stroke crank is better than using any stroker kit on a b16 because it allows you to rev the motor higher with a better rs(rod/stroke) ratio. this allows you to utilize the high rpms to your advantage. max power is going to be made at max rpm with a properly sized turbo. therefore your already moving once the just of the power comes into play. making traction not as much of an issue on launch
look man if you dont know this stuff and are questioning the amount of power the motor can make then you should do some more homework.
do you know what mean piston speed/rs ratio is?? using a 84mm sleeve/bore with the stock stroke crank is better than using any stroker kit on a b16 because it allows you to rev the motor higher with a better rs(rod/stroke) ratio. this allows you to utilize the high rpms to your advantage. max power is going to be made at max rpm with a properly sized turbo. therefore your already moving once the just of the power comes into play. making traction not as much of an issue on launch
look man if you dont know this stuff and are questioning the amount of power the motor can make then you should do some more homework.
and increasing displacement isnt limited to stroking a motor. its acuallly better to bore with b series motors because of the r/s ratio. stroking with a new crank will actually limit your rpms to little more than stock.
not all b series blocks are the same. let me rephrase that. all b series internals are interchangable. the blocks have different size sleeves and depending on model will have oil squirters to help lubricate at higher rpms such as in the vtec models. but using the 84-85mm bore sleeves is the best in combo with the b16 crank and rods.
oh yeah i forgot to tell you i also own a 96 dc2 with a b20 swap
not all b series blocks are the same. let me rephrase that. all b series internals are interchangable. the blocks have different size sleeves and depending on model will have oil squirters to help lubricate at higher rpms such as in the vtec models. but using the 84-85mm bore sleeves is the best in combo with the b16 crank and rods.
oh yeah i forgot to tell you i also own a 96 dc2 with a b20 swap
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Rep Power: 0 please read... i know a b16 can make high hp. i also stated that i have never seen one make 800+, so once again, i ask for a link. also, from my research i've found that b16 blocks are shorter then b18 blocks, so again, link to pics or whatnot of where you found that it's just the width of the cylinder.
stock crank makes sense for higher revs over a crank with a longer stroke, but i would've thought the longer stroke crank would give you slightly less power at the low end and that would actually allow you to start off better. although, i didn't take into account the extra exhaust flowing out so it would spool the turbo up faster. so the main power maker (turbo) would kick in much sooner making you lose traction. so you're right there.
so pretty much, once agian, i ask for linkage to 800+ > b16 <
stock crank makes sense for higher revs over a crank with a longer stroke, but i would've thought the longer stroke crank would give you slightly less power at the low end and that would actually allow you to start off better. although, i didn't take into account the extra exhaust flowing out so it would spool the turbo up faster. so the main power maker (turbo) would kick in much sooner making you lose traction. so you're right there.
so pretty much, once agian, i ask for linkage to 800+ > b16 <
ok so then you know that basically all b series motors are capapble of the same power level. what would make a b18 any different than a b16 when using a larger bore/sleeve. at that point its just rods crank and pistons. and yes the b18c is supposed to have a larger deck height than the b18b b16 and b20. but this can be overcome buy utilizing the correct piston and rod. once again planning your build
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Rep Power: 0 boost_junkie, i also have an acura nsx pumping out 500whp sitting in my garage... in other words give me some dyno results, thanks. but 400hp on 21 psi i'ld believe, but 290's on 10 seems quite high.
ah, well i never really compared b16s to b20s or b18b's. trust me though, i'm far from considering myself an expert on the topic being discussed, and i'm sorry if i came across as an ***. i just want to see some actual proof of this stuff. not just he said she said, because from what i've read you'll be hard pressed to see near 300hp on a SOHC running 10psi. also, i would still like to see some links to b16s/b20/b18b putting out 800hp. the previous links were h22/b18c with b16 heads in one case i believe. ok i'm outa work so heading to the gym, nice debating with you
ah, well i never really compared b16s to b20s or b18b's. trust me though, i'm far from considering myself an expert on the topic being discussed, and i'm sorry if i came across as an ***. i just want to see some actual proof of this stuff. not just he said she said, because from what i've read you'll be hard pressed to see near 300hp on a SOHC running 10psi. also, i would still like to see some links to b16s/b20/b18b putting out 800hp. the previous links were h22/b18c with b16 heads in one case i believe. ok i'm outa work so heading to the gym, nice debating with you
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Rep Power: 299 boost_junkie, i also have an acura nsx pumping out 500whp sitting in my garage... in other words give me some dyno results, thanks. but 400hp on 21 psi i'ld believe, but 290's on 10 seems quite high.
ah, well i never really compared b16s to b20s or b18b's. trust me though, i'm far from considering myself an expert on the topic being discussed, and i'm sorry if i came across as an ***. i just want to see some actual proof of this stuff. not just he said she said, because from what i've read you'll be hard pressed to see near 300hp on a SOHC running 10psi. also, i would still like to see some links to b16s/b20/b18b putting out 800hp. the previous links were h22/b18c with b16 heads in one case i believe. ok i'm outa work so heading to the gym, nice debating with you
ah, well i never really compared b16s to b20s or b18b's. trust me though, i'm far from considering myself an expert on the topic being discussed, and i'm sorry if i came across as an ***. i just want to see some actual proof of this stuff. not just he said she said, because from what i've read you'll be hard pressed to see near 300hp on a SOHC running 10psi. also, i would still like to see some links to b16s/b20/b18b putting out 800hp. the previous links were h22/b18c with b16 heads in one case i believe. ok i'm outa work so heading to the gym, nice debating with you
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Rep Power: 246 ya i wanna see this nsx man. and im with you ,ricergribbs, on the whole proof of the 800 hp d16,d18. i do beleive its possible to do if you had the smarts, the money and some acess to a machine shop.
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Rep Power: 0 errr... i was being sarcastic... you see he just said that his friend has this 400hp d engine, so i said i have an nsx (which I DO NOT HAVE)... see... just want some proof not just read some he said she said type stuff....
how about a 500whp d16
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