Ok time for some problem fixing help (Edited with some cool pics)....
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Ok time for some problem fixing help (Edited with some cool pics)....
The test fit day is always full of surprises.
the first one, the header came off with out a fight.
That was the only good thing the whole day.....
Question 1: Whats the criticality of the plate on the drivers side of the exhaust tunnel next to the AC compressor? Can that be ditched? I can't see it blocking much heat.
Next little pile of issues is the way the turbo fits. First of all, it hits the rad. core support. Nothing a BFH can't fix.
Second, there's a plug for something I didn't bother to trace in the way of the compressor inlet, Looks easily movable from the bracket though.
Third, bigger problem, see second pic, Hot side clearance to the AC is non existent. Open for suggestions here. I just don't see how the DP is going to clear that, even if I curl it back under the turbo immediately.
Fourth is how low the compressor outlet is. Its about 1" above the motor mount, I'm not seeing a way to fit a pipe though there without losing a fan. Need the insight on this one.
Moving a little lower... went to set up the oil pan.... umm its not flat. There goes all hope of a bolt in fitting staying sealed. Gotta find someone who can TIG and make a friend.
Good news is I made the line (really what I did was splice 2 fittings together with a small piece of stainless hose
)
Oil feed setup got cut out and added. I put it in the cooler return line with a bunch of AN fittings since believe it or not, no one makes a mid line splice fitting for SS lines. So I needed 2 hose ends, a male to male union and the fitting with the T port on it. Retarded.
Anyways, so yeah. I knew it wasn't gonna be a cake walk, but I was hoping something would go my way...... nope. Insult to injury I put the header back on and the gasket would seal. $26 later, I had myself a new donut gasket for the downpipe so I can drive around without smoking up a storm for the next few weeks.
the first one, the header came off with out a fight.
That was the only good thing the whole day.....
Question 1: Whats the criticality of the plate on the drivers side of the exhaust tunnel next to the AC compressor? Can that be ditched? I can't see it blocking much heat.
Next little pile of issues is the way the turbo fits. First of all, it hits the rad. core support. Nothing a BFH can't fix.
Second, there's a plug for something I didn't bother to trace in the way of the compressor inlet, Looks easily movable from the bracket though.
Third, bigger problem, see second pic, Hot side clearance to the AC is non existent. Open for suggestions here. I just don't see how the DP is going to clear that, even if I curl it back under the turbo immediately.
Fourth is how low the compressor outlet is. Its about 1" above the motor mount, I'm not seeing a way to fit a pipe though there without losing a fan. Need the insight on this one.
Moving a little lower... went to set up the oil pan.... umm its not flat. There goes all hope of a bolt in fitting staying sealed. Gotta find someone who can TIG and make a friend.
Good news is I made the line (really what I did was splice 2 fittings together with a small piece of stainless hose
)Oil feed setup got cut out and added. I put it in the cooler return line with a bunch of AN fittings since believe it or not, no one makes a mid line splice fitting for SS lines. So I needed 2 hose ends, a male to male union and the fitting with the T port on it. Retarded.
Anyways, so yeah. I knew it wasn't gonna be a cake walk, but I was hoping something would go my way...... nope. Insult to injury I put the header back on and the gasket would seal. $26 later, I had myself a new donut gasket for the downpipe so I can drive around without smoking up a storm for the next few weeks.
Last edited by Boilermaker1; Mar 6, 2006 at 07:09 PM.
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Rep Power: 327 #1 yes i removed that plate on mine
#2 not sure what plug your talking about?
#3 curl it torwards the engine and under turbo( see my pictures) BTW i covered my AC line with some heat reflective material
#4 i used a 90degree elbow and cleared fine on mine .....shrug maybe try clocking the compressor some?
Looking good, keep up the good work!
#2 not sure what plug your talking about?
#3 curl it torwards the engine and under turbo( see my pictures) BTW i covered my AC line with some heat reflective material
#4 i used a 90degree elbow and cleared fine on mine .....shrug maybe try clocking the compressor some?
Looking good, keep up the good work!
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Rep Power: 424 The plug was the O2 sensor... you can see the plug I was talking about in the first picture. There's a couple intermediate fasteners that can be removed and that wire can be re-routed elsewhere.
Yeah man, remove the ac plate and the o2 harness from the plate, just zip tie it down elsewhere.
As far as the downpipe, that's always been tricky getting them to fit.
For the compressor inlet, I assume you're talking about the filter pipe. Gotta get creative there and get some bends if it doesn't fit. That's an easy fix.
As far as the downpipe, that's always been tricky getting them to fit.
For the compressor inlet, I assume you're talking about the filter pipe. Gotta get creative there and get some bends if it doesn't fit. That's an easy fix.
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Rep Power: 331 ^i have that problem too..amongst others 
we suck boiler
i test fitted my brand new dezod EL manifold today..luckily it looks like everything will go smooth with that. While we were at it we installed my exhuast today...not so good news.
#1 - lost my front sway bar...kinda interesting, but i think it'll get old pretty fast, i have nice oversteer but the car simply DIVES into every turn.
#2 - the EX header i used was so rusted out, one of the threaded ends stripped out, so i ended up boring out the hole and using a bolt and nut...which introduced a nice leak.
#3 - the muffler rattles with my progress rear sway bar...
we suck boileri test fitted my brand new dezod EL manifold today..luckily it looks like everything will go smooth with that. While we were at it we installed my exhuast today...not so good news.
#1 - lost my front sway bar...kinda interesting, but i think it'll get old pretty fast, i have nice oversteer but the car simply DIVES into every turn.
#2 - the EX header i used was so rusted out, one of the threaded ends stripped out, so i ended up boring out the hole and using a bolt and nut...which introduced a nice leak.
#3 - the muffler rattles with my progress rear sway bar...
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Rep Power: 424 1. pick up an ex sway bar
2. who cares you got a week until the turbo goes in. I have a spare (new) donut gasket if you want to try that.
3. shorter exhaust hangers?
2. who cares you got a week until the turbo goes in. I have a spare (new) donut gasket if you want to try that.
3. shorter exhaust hangers?
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Rep Power: 331 yes, i was thinking an ex front...my friends are trying to get me to go with the progress...i kinda like excessive over steer, what year was the ex front sway the thinnest? 
im using a brand new donut. i just need to cut off the existing welded nut and replace it, and i cant get shorter hangers because the muffler is already really close to the bumper..
im using a brand new donut. i just need to cut off the existing welded nut and replace it, and i cant get shorter hangers because the muffler is already really close to the bumper..
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Rep Power: 424 My new Rolex
The command center (minus the W/B AF which is going elsewhere)
For those of you who have never seen the inside of a turbo, here you go. There's really not much to it.... its a snazzy hair dryer.... but wear gloves and don't touch anything if you open one up.
The command center (minus the W/B AF which is going elsewhere)
For those of you who have never seen the inside of a turbo, here you go. There's really not much to it.... its a snazzy hair dryer.... but wear gloves and don't touch anything if you open one up.
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Originally Posted by Pedro Lopes
Sweet gauges, I have Defi gauges aswell. Which turbo is that again, it's a GT28RS right.
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Boiler, what gauge is it on the right of boostmeter?
yeah looks like a tight squeeze for the DP. gonna have to **** it under down at a 90 and at an angle. not the best for flow. I think a new manifold is gonna be best. alot of mani's **** the turbo inward some to give more room for the dp to clear that line.
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Originally Posted by cleancivic 05
how much does the defi dis cost and what do u need to get with it and what do u mean about dizzyless ing what do u need to get it to work. just asking some ? i was looking at that gauge for my car.
-the computer can't read the tach signal because its looking for ignition pulses and its not getting what it wants
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Yeah I know, I know.....
Now imagine this with your end product that has to be replicated....fixtures need to be utilized. Cost effective means of production with flow, performance and cost in mind..........welcome to our world.
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Originally Posted by dezod
Hey any progress while attempting to boost on your own is good progress. Now you are realizing all of the fun involved in creating a system. Crash course 101.
Now imagine this with your end product that has to be replicated....fixtures need to be utilized. Cost effective means of production with flow, performance and cost in mind..........welcome to our world.
Now imagine this with your end product that has to be replicated....fixtures need to be utilized. Cost effective means of production with flow, performance and cost in mind..........welcome to our world.
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