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Old Jan 26, 2006
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Question Civic with K20A

I'm just planing my swap right now and the future of it, After I do the swap with the rsx ecu, can I do a turbo that was designated for the RSX and bolt it in with my setup? and how about the e-management? For example, using the HKS turbo setup for the rsx and getting a F-CON V Pro. will that work?
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Old Jan 26, 2006
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Originally Posted by Kimira
I'm just planing my swap right now and the future of it, After I do the swap with the rsx ecu, can I do a turbo that was designated for the RSX and bolt it in with my setup? and how about the e-management? For example, using the HKS turbo setup for the rsx and getting a F-CON V Pro. will that work?
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you will run into some problems with intercooler piping and intercooler mounting. those are easily fabricated. skip the fcon bs and get kpro. its pretty versitile .
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Old Jan 26, 2006
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i've seen a k20 turbo in a civic so i know its possible..
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Cybernations has one that will bolt up.
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kpro only man... i don't suggest anything else
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if ur goin big horsepower do a custom turbo setup it'll be cheaper in the long run!!!!!!!!!! k-pro all the way
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hmm kpro eh.. so I should go custome turbo with the gt garret, cool. also does anyone know if it's possible to set up the indash dvd player to display AFR, boost pressure, oil temp, ect? becuase with all the stuff with the turbo comin in it's gonna get crowded.lol
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don't turbo a K20A.

I said the same thing to another guy ... but he did it anyway and it blew up after 3 days.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
don't turbo a K20A.

I said the same thing to another guy ... but he did it anyway and it blew up after 3 days.
If you build it right, it'll work. I'll cite DC5@EM2 whereever he went to..... he took his to cybernation, they dropped the compression down to 9:1 and the damn thing pushed almost 30 PSI.
there's people with stock A2s running 400+ HP, its all in the tune, but taking a motor thats basically handcrafted for N/A madness and boosting it is still nuts IMHO. 11.5:1 compression is not made for holding boost. Pick up the much cheaper and larger K24A1 or A4 (Accord? Or CR-V) and boost that.
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anyone got any input for the b series, and the dart block and heads, I heard they can withstand some beating because they reinforced the deck or somethin.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
If you build it right, it'll work. I'll cite DC5@EM2 whereever he went to..... he took his to cybernation, they dropped the compression down to 9:1 and the damn thing pushed almost 30 PSI.
there's people with stock A2s running 400+ HP, its all in the tune, but taking a motor thats basically handcrafted for N/A madness and boosting it is still nuts IMHO. 11.5:1 compression is not made for holding boost. Pick up the much cheaper and larger K24A1 or A4 (Accord? Or CR-V) and boost that.
well yeah. but if you're gonna change out the pistons, then why not just get a k20a2 ... the gearing is better on that for turbo anyway ;P
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11:1 or 11.5:1 either way is still too high in my mind. It works, yes, but you're hanging on the verge of blowing it up unless you have a really good tuner doing your work. The margin for minor errors is non existent whereas with the K20A3 or K24s, you have a little wiggle room.
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Originally Posted by Kimira
anyone got any input for the b series, and the dart block and heads, I heard they can withstand some beating because they reinforced the deck or somethin.
You can't put a B series in the car. If you have an 01, its legal, otherwise its illegal to do so, and no one makes mounts.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
11:1 or 11.5:1 either way is still too high in my mind. It works, yes, but you're hanging on the verge of blowing it up unless you have a really good tuner doing your work. The margin for minor errors is non existent whereas with the K20A3 or K24s, you have a little wiggle room.
yeah, but ...

k20a3@10 psi = ~230whp
k20a2@10 psi = ~350 whp

iirc...

but u don't care about straightline ... why would you boost anything? ;P
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but u don't care about straightline ... why would you boost anything? ;P
Because if you get it to spool quick enough, you get a lot of low end. VWs have tiny turbos and make peak TQ at 1500 RPMs (unfortunately, they also die before the redline). Faster you get off a corner, faster you go.
Difference between the 2 is if all you want to do is go straight, you get a huge turbo and get it to spool on top, you run a lot of boost and don't care when you get it because your foot is just pegged to the floor.
If you want to go bombing around a track or something, you get a small turbo, DON'T run a lot of boost and get it to spool instantly. You don't need hundreds of HP anyways, spinning wheels doesn't work.
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^ won't you be put into a different class with a turbo though?

hmm, yes ... I've just about got all the power I need. My goal is 220 whp n/a ... that's good enough for me ... getting pretty damn close ;P

it's not too difficult to break my tires loose in 1st ... I can't stand not having traction. anything over 300 whp is useless on a fwd
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^ won't you be put into a different class with a turbo though?
Autocross yes, but the car isn't competitive anywhere anyways.
Track days and driving schools are by experience level, not by car
Its probably not legal in very many W2W classes, but I'm not there yet.
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