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Old Jan 24, 2006
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My simple intended setup...

I m lookin for a drivable ride that allows me to overtake with ease n some occasional traffic light sprints if required (running at 7psi at most!!)... not going for low timings in 1/4 runs or high hp... thinking of putting the following into my ride, can the experts out there give me ur kind comments... Thanks...

Setup as follows...
> T25 with wastegate
> BOV
> Customised piping as necessary
> NO intercooler
> RSX injectors
> Emanage with necessary harness.

I m not based in US, so cant really get my hands on the wonderful Dezod or TSI kits... Average temperature is like near 30deg C over my side... Any kind comments will b great!! Thanks...
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ummmm I wouldn't be running in 90 degree weather without an intercooler. Its just asking for it.
At 7 psi, you're probably looking at 200F intake temps.
You can pick up generic fit intercoolers for not a whole lot of money.
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Thanks for your input... i m lookin at having a simple setup with low boost, and the thought of having an intercooler is adding to the cost and pipe routing complexity, though having a small S14/5 side-mounted ITC may/will solve the problem...

In Singapore, it is illegal to have a turbo kit for a NA ride, so having that stealth exterior is also 1 of the top priority... Any other views??
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Originally Posted by snooze2
Thanks for your input... i m lookin at having a simple setup with low boost, and the thought of having an intercooler is adding to the cost and pipe routing complexity, though having a small S14/5 side-mounted ITC may/will solve the problem...

In Singapore, it is illegal to have a turbo kit for a NA ride, so having that stealth exterior is also 1 of the top priority... Any other views??
Why not use a mitsubishi eclipse side mount intercooler? As far as keeping it stealth, you may also want to use a reciculation valve or however it's referred to. in other words, don't use an atmospheric bov, have it dump the charge to the turbo inlet tube to keep spool up between shifts. Both b.o.v. and recirculation have some noise to them, but the recirculation will be beneficial for keeping spool up and keep the stealth theme.

Othewise I'm looking at the same setup myself. I probably will be looking / hoping to have the boost set for at least 5 - 6 psi. Which for a novice should be more than enough for now.

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Originally Posted by snooze2
Thanks for your input... i m lookin at having a simple setup with low boost, and the thought of having an intercooler is adding to the cost and pipe routing complexity, though having a small S14/5 side-mounted ITC may/will solve the problem...

In Singapore, it is illegal to have a turbo kit for a NA ride, so having that stealth exterior is also 1 of the top priority... Any other views??
PM me, I'll show you my sneaky rig.... but I'm not letting the cat out of the bag to the rest of you yet
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7psi is not low boost
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Just get a 1st gen DSM sidemount from an eclipse and 3 pipes is all you will need. It's cheap, like $20-$30 US and good enough for 7psi.
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Try like 3-4 psi lol
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
Try like 3-4 psi lol
That intercooler withstands 14-15 psi so why not 7 psi?

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I meant 3-4 psi is low boost; Just agreeing with Gear.
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
I meant 3-4 psi is low boost; Just agreeing with Gear.
Oh okay, I'm with you then.

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Thanks for all the wonderful comments n inputs bros...
Mabbe I shld reduce my 'intended' boost to abt 4psi...

I m mre inclined towards this kinda setup (different engine though)... seems okie as its built for runnin in the same climate as mine...

http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/Civic/art7/index.html

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Originally Posted by snooze2
Thanks for all the wonderful comments n inputs bros...
Mabbe I shld reduce my 'intended' boost to abt 4psi...

I m mre inclined towards this kinda setup (different engine though)... seems okie as its built for runnin in the same climate as mine...

http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/Civic/art7/index.html

Any comments??
You seem to be going towards the same "no intercooler" direction so I think that you should just try it and let us know how it goes. Hey, if that guy can do it, then why can't you, right? I for one, am interested in the results. Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by snooze2
Thanks for all the wonderful comments n inputs bros...
Mabbe I shld reduce my 'intended' boost to abt 4psi...

I m mre inclined towards this kinda setup (different engine though)... seems okie as its built for runnin in the same climate as mine...

http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/Civic/art7/index.html

Any comments??

why would you go to all of the trouble of a turbo kit for 4 psi? That'll net you around 30HP. why not just get a 25 shot? It'd be WAY cheaper.
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eh...well i guess if he changes his mind he can fab up some pipes and add an IC.

i don't really kno much about nitrous but you'd have to fill it up eventually. and in some states its illegal to have a nitrous set up.
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Originally Posted by snooze2
Thanks for your input... i m lookin at having a simple setup with low boost, and the thought of having an intercooler is adding to the cost and pipe routing complexity, though having a small S14/5 side-mounted ITC may/will solve the problem...

In Singapore, it is illegal to have a turbo kit for a NA ride, so having that stealth exterior is also 1 of the top priority... Any other views??

you can forget about a side mount IC...it'll never work...
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you can forget about a side mount IC...it'll never work...
And why the hell not?
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Originally Posted by snooze2
Thanks for your input... i m lookin at having a simple setup with low boost, and the thought of having an intercooler is adding to the cost and pipe routing complexity, though having a small S14/5 side-mounted ITC may/will solve the problem...

In Singapore, it is illegal to have a turbo kit for a NA ride, so having that stealth exterior is also 1 of the top priority... Any other views??
Not sure if its legal or not, but if you get caught they might cane your ***!
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
And why the hell not?

find me a side mount IC thats small enough to fit inside the stock bumper of a 7th gen without hackin it all to hell and I'll say it works....ok?
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Well, I don't know why it needs to fit in the bumper, but ok.

And yes, it works quite well... the magic of pressure differentials and air ducts.

Custom fab shops do marvelous things.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Well, I don't know why it needs to fit in the bumper, but ok.

And yes, it works quite well... the magic of pressure differentials and air ducts.

Custom fab shops do marvelous things.

Its better to have it in the bumper thats why most car manufacturers have always placed them in the front bumper in the past. Yes you might have some air ducts in there but its not going to cool as well as one would if it were in the front bumper. Is it going to cool well enough? It probably will, but not as good and I personally wouldnt put one in that spot, but thats just me...it does look nice though....


edit: damn its been a while since I owned a 7th gen... I just realized you had to relocate your battery in order to do that too... that blows...

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Uh oh time to make a duct onto that bad boy
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I'm not worried. I'm one smart cookie. There's enough high pressure around there with a couple of louvers in the splash guards and a pair of NACA ducts, plenty of air will go through there. That core is good for almost 300 HP, I'm going to be pushing about half that through there.
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^^no where near as much pressure as it would receive being in the bumper and now you have hot radiator air/underhood temps to contend with now but like I said before.....to each their own
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Park on downtown city streets somewhere for a while and you'll see why I don't want expensive and fairly delicate hardware critical to the car's function in the front bumper. People who can't park, attempt to park by feel. So I'm keeping it inside. Its not enough horsepower to need a 20x12 core. Hot radiator air? Shrouding will keep the radiator crossflow off of it. Thats a pretty easy fix. Put the intercooler in front and you have hot water to deal with. It goes both ways. Trade one for the other.
There's a reason for everything. I know it isn't ideal, but compromises get made, but without huge power in mind, trading the life span and durability of the intercooler for a couple degrees is a worthwhile move for the time being. Situation changes, intercoolers are pretty easy to get, I'll look into something else when the time comes to turn up the boost.

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Originally Posted by acjones21
why would you go to all of the trouble of a turbo kit for 4 psi? That'll net you around 30HP. why not just get a 25 shot? It'd be WAY cheaper.
Umm... as 1 of the bros had mentioned... this setup offers a gd route for upgradin if required... Gettin a NOS kit is out as its hard 2 get refill over here.

Heheh... i m nt greedy anyway... 30hp shld b gd enuff 4 better drivability, as illustrated by the dyno grph...
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Well, I don't know why it needs to fit in the bumper, but ok.

And yes, it works quite well... the magic of pressure differentials and air ducts.

Custom fab shops do marvelous things.
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