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yeah, the tuner said he still needed to clean up the a/f a little bit ... but for the most part, it's good.

oh btw, the run was a 5th gear pull ...
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why 5th gear?? isn't it usually 3rd?
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I think it's ideal to dyno in as close to a 1:1 gear ratio as possible.

Most Hondas dyno in 3rd, when they should actually be dyno'ing in 4th... as it is closer to 1:1, iirc.

the ITR 4th gear is 1.212, while my 5th gear is 0.972 ... which makes it technically closer to 1:1. RSX-S's 4th gear is closer, at 1.147 or something like that.

all of my previous dynojet runs have been in 4th gear ... so this is my 1st 5th gear pull.
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sorry for the delay, but here is the dyno chart:



also, sorry for the crappy scan ... my work scanner sucks.
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AHHHHH!!!~~ your scanner sucks!!

nice #'s... we should go beat up some sti's and evo's sometime...
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yeah because I can beat up sti's and evo's in my car
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
yeah because I can beat up sti's and evo's in my car
you must believe....
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not bad derik i havent seen any posts from you in a while besides this thread. you should seriously think abou tjust ordering another stainless flex pipe besides form TODA. its not going to make a bit of difference. but i know your a label ***** like me soo i cant say more than that. i just like things done when i want them done. i hate waiting on anything. BTW i just picked up a 96 teg ls. so its on like donkey kong with the bseries build up. thinking about either a n/a ls/vtec or maybe turbo ls/vtec. i cant quite decide. i relly want to try for 500whp on race gas. but a n/a 300whp build would also be fun. either way i have to save some money right now. i have the new TEG and i still have to finish up the headwork and crap on the ES.
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well I'll tell u this right now ... I don't mean to bring your hopes down, but you're never going to make 300 whp on any gas with an n/a B-series ... full race n/a B-series motors are making around 260-270 whp, bored and everything revving to 11k rpms.

plus, it's not cost-effective ... if you want power, just turbo it.

anyway, my toda header should be back on on Tuesday ... so sometime after that, I'll get a full tune and we'll see how the numbers look after that ;P
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fvck i hate my d17
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
I don't mean to bring your hopes down, but you're never going to make 300 whp on any gas with an n/a B-series ... full race n/a B-series motors are making around 260-270 whp, bored and everything revving to 11k rpms.

plus, it's not cost-effective ... if you want power, just turbo it.
i do know it would be a feat but you can come close i have seen b18's make 290whp but it wasnt cheap or as you stated cost effective. the plan is to go turbo but honestly i love n/a as well. ill just keep the d17 N/a and go turbo on the teg. i have someone who wants $1k for everything needed for the ls/vtec swap using a gsr head i would rather do a b16 head though because it flows better but who knows, i still have to pay my taxes!
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want one... if u turbo the k20... that will be so nice!!!!
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Originally Posted by wsccd3
want one... if u turbo the k20... that will be so nice!!!!
he is not going to turbo it, first of its a k20a so it has higher compression so boost is a little tricky and you cant run much of it unless you build the whole bottom end. plus he pretty much has a 13 sec car and its as reliable as they get, only bolt ons! there is no need to boost the car he isnt building a race car its his DD
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^ words came right out of my mouth
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then quit asking me to turbo it!!!!!!!

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alright ... I just got re-tuned again at church's automotive ...

last time, I had a cracked flexpipe on my toda header, a weapon R secret filter and stock brakes ...

this time around, I have the stock filter that came with my Injen CAI, a repaired flexpipe and a big brake kit ... those are the only differences from when I dyno'ed last. Temperature was warmer today than last time too...

Anyway, last time I got tuned at church's, I only went for an hour ... mainly to clean up a/f while I was waiting to get my header fixed. That time, I put down 223.9 hp, 165.6 tq ... that was back in April.

Today, I got re-tuned now that everything is fixed ... it took about an hour and a half.

I put down 239.5 hp, 173.5 tq

Needless to say, I am very, very impressed. I made more power throughout the entire powerband. I will try to post the graph as soon as I can ... probably sometime this week.
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tight **** man i want to go for a ride next time...
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wow...great job man
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um the work into the car shows
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I'm interested to know what your duty cycle was at?
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nice! that is some fat power! your still not thinking of boosting an a2 are you? I saw that thread on crsx.
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duty cycle was max 86% I believe.

djmota: I was ... but not anymore. Not enough interest in my k20a motor.
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sweet D that is awesome i never would have thought that with simple bolt ons that you would make that much power. i think you made a good choice in parts LOL!! i just finished a b20b swap in the Teg. she feels a lot better. i could turn the crank pulley form the old b18b with my hand that is how bad the compression was. needless to say it feels a lot better. i started on friday and got done yesterday at about 1:00pm. it wasnt too bad at all. i still have a couple of kinks to work out today but over all it wasnt bad for the $565 that i got the motor for, and now i have the b18 to keep and build up

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Swibby, i got to call Shawn and get set up for my final tune session now that ive got all my stuff worked out, but nice numbers!
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although I dyno'ed with high numbers, it seems a little fishy. the tuner [not shawn church] tuned my car in 3rd gear. I have no idea why he decided to tune in 3rd gear ...

I requested a 4th gear run after he was finished and my hp came out to 263 hp ... it wasn't just a spike either ... so I think something's wrong with my numbers. There are guys on clubrsx who are putting down 235-240 hp on church's dynapak, but they have i/h/e/kpro ... as well as cams. There was a guy who dyno'ed the same exact day on church's other dynapak dyno [he has two of them ... also, tuned in 4th gear] who put down 239.4 hp, 171 tq ... he has a k20a2 with crower stg 3/4 race cams, i/h/e/kpro and an rbc manifold ... so I think my numbers are a little too high.

I'll probably be taking my car to a local shop for a dynojet comparison for consistancy in about 2-3 weeks or so.
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AzNBOYSRFR what are your plans for the k20a. Are you going to leave it N/A or go turbo or S/C?
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this just shows the uniqueness of the k20a and how it responds to bolt ons... insane!


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