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i know i know im sorry
i know its been covered and i have been reading threads all day long and im confused as ever right now on fuel systems.
if i convert to a return fuel system with an aeromotive fpr and walbro pump would i still need e manage or would i be better of going with rsx injectors and emanage.
or should i do both return system and rsx injectors with e manage
if i convert to a return fuel system with an aeromotive fpr and walbro pump would i still need e manage or would i be better of going with rsx injectors and emanage.
or should i do both return system and rsx injectors with e manage
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Rep Power: 585 If you convert to a return and raise your fuel pressure, you will need some type of fuel management. If you have the money, return with type s injectors and e-manage is a very sweet set-up. If you are strapped for cash, just do type s injectors and e-manage.
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Originally Posted by andyman97
Return is totally unnecesarry. I'm making 250 whp with no return line or aftermarket fpr.
andy, you are making that power on what? type-s injectors, fuel pump and the aem ems....right? To tell you the truth the research that i have done about return and returnless fuel setups, i personally dont think that a returnless setup is needed because of the power limitations of a stock block d17....
so no, you dont really need to convert to a returnless setup if you are staying mild...but remember that whatever fuel upgrades you make, you will have to have something to control that...
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Rep Power: 327 Not true. I've seen a returnless k20a2 make 512 whp on a completely stock motor with no return line. Been running for months. I will make 300 or more on a stock motor without a return line or adjustable fpr.
And I'm using 440's. Yes, you'll need bigger injectors, obviously but an adjustable fuel pressure regulator is unnecesary.
And I'm using 440's. Yes, you'll need bigger injectors, obviously but an adjustable fuel pressure regulator is unnecesary.
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Rep Power: 258 [QUOTE=andyman97]I will make 300 or more on a stock motor without a return line or adjustable fpr.
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Is it with stock d17 intank fuel pump?
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Is it with stock d17 intank fuel pump?
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Originally Posted by andyman97
Not true. I've seen a returnless k20a2 make 512 whp on a completely stock motor. Been running for months. I will make 300 or more on a stock motor without a return line or adjustable fpr.
And I'm using 440's. Yes, you'll need bigger injectors, obviously but an adjustable fuel pressure regulator is unnecesary.
And I'm using 440's. Yes, you'll need bigger injectors, obviously but an adjustable fuel pressure regulator is unnecesary.
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Originally Posted by hondapower05
I am officially trowing the bull s@#t flag. You cannot run that much horses on a stock block and head. Physics wont allow it. Maybe 215.
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Rep Power: 0 Listen here, I am a master tech at a high performance shop and I know for a fact that it is impossible. The strain on the stock valves alone will cause them to snap not to mention the piston rings that cannot hold more than 300 without losing all of their seal. So watch yourself because some people can see right through your lies and your attempts to "fit in". As for how long you have been on this site, who cares, this is a forum, not a place to imatate what we wish we had. I am completely honest when I say that my DXVP is putting down 157hp and 165lb/ft with only boltons and my EG hatch, with a B20vtec is putting down 408 on 18psi and full internal work.
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Rep Power: 327 Ok, it's physically impossibel....here is the proof that you are DEAD WRONG, MORON!
Master tech my ***, lol, you're probably some little kid talking **** on the internet for all I know....I think your stupidity is what people will see right through.
Here's a stock d16y8 making 305 whp.
Dyno Chart
And for those haters that say "you have to have sleeves," here's one for you, stock sleeves in an LS block:
Dyno 2
Master tech my ***, lol, you're probably some little kid talking **** on the internet for all I know....I think your stupidity is what people will see right through.
Here's a stock d16y8 making 305 whp.
Dyno Chart
And for those haters that say "you have to have sleeves," here's one for you, stock sleeves in an LS block:
Dyno 2
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Originally Posted by andyman97
You are a moron, noob. I think you need to shut your mouth and learn a little bit about engines before you start throwing up a "bs" flag. In fact, there are people on this forum that have personally seen my setup and know it isn't bs. I've been around this site since near the beginning. You also should probably do some research on physics. Until you can post intelligently, you should probably STFU.
think he is talkin about the rsx running that much power andy
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Originally Posted by hondapower05
the numbers look nice but I give that motor 5k miles tops.
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Originally Posted by andyman97
You are a moron, noob. I think you need to shut your mouth and learn a little bit about engines before you start throwing up a "bs" flag. In fact, there are people on this forum that have personally seen my setup and know it isn't bs. I've been around this site since near the beginning. You also should probably do some research on physics. Until you can post intelligently, you should probably STFU.
You are a moron, noob. I think you need to shut your mouth and learn a little bit about engines before you start throwing up a "bs" flag. In fact, there are people on this forum that have personally seen my setup and know it isn't bs. I've been around this site since near the beginning. You also should probably do some research on physics. Until you can post intelligently, you should probably STFU.
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I just love when people use their "length of residency" of a forum as a source of credibility
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Originally Posted by andyman97
Not true. I've seen a returnless k20a2 make 512 whp on a completely stock motor with no return line. Been running for months. I will make 300 or more on a stock motor without a return line or adjustable fpr.
And I'm using 440's. Yes, you'll need bigger injectors, obviously but an adjustable fuel pressure regulator is unnecesary.
And I'm using 440's. Yes, you'll need bigger injectors, obviously but an adjustable fuel pressure regulator is unnecesary.
when you have a high horsepower car (300+) the last injectors on the rail get starved of fuel without a fuel return line back into the tank. The return allows the fuel to evenly go THROUGH the rail offering all the injectors the same amount of fuel. Hope this cleared everything up
