my dyno at 8 psi (pic)
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Originally Posted by meseetree
that's the problem with honda drivers, no one understands that turbos cost money.
$1400 on the AEM EMS is CHEAP, and 3000 on a turbo set-up is real cheap,
I'm looking at going turbo on my BMW and the enigine tuning is the TEC3r which cost's 2,750 + the tune, the turbo kit I'm doing myself so it will be about 4000 dollars plus cost of the TEC3r.
I know honda's are a little different and cheaper to do things, but I'm just stating that the AEM is pretty cheap considering other cars.
I like to say when going turbo you can only pic two of the three:
speed
reliability
cash
$1400 on the AEM EMS is CHEAP, and 3000 on a turbo set-up is real cheap,
I'm looking at going turbo on my BMW and the enigine tuning is the TEC3r which cost's 2,750 + the tune, the turbo kit I'm doing myself so it will be about 4000 dollars plus cost of the TEC3r.
I know honda's are a little different and cheaper to do things, but I'm just stating that the AEM is pretty cheap considering other cars.
I like to say when going turbo you can only pic two of the three:
speed
reliability
cash
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Originally Posted by dezod
That's what I am talking about. TEC3, Motec, Haltech are crazy expensive and require lots of wiring and expertise. Honda drivers don't realize how easy they have it. I am in the same boat turbo'ing my Lexus with a custom built Dezod kit. EMS scenarios are VERY limited for the 2JZGE.
that's the nice thing about the tec3 though, it's fully PnP now, but yes the tune I wouldn't even kow where to start on it, I'm probably looking at 1K+ for the tune, but it will be so worth it,
I want to see the lexus when you get it done, I've seen cheaply turboed is300's but I really want to see a well done one,
I wasn't even aware of any EMS's out for the 2jzge yet?
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Originally Posted by meseetree
that's the nice thing about the tec3 though, it's fully PnP now, but yes the tune I wouldn't even kow where to start on it, I'm probably looking at 1K+ for the tune, but it will be so worth it,
I want to see the lexus when you get it done, I've seen cheaply turboed is300's but I really want to see a well done one,
I wasn't even aware of any EMS's out for the 2jzge yet?
I want to see the lexus when you get it done, I've seen cheaply turboed is300's but I really want to see a well done one,
I wasn't even aware of any EMS's out for the 2jzge yet?
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Originally Posted by MajinB
dude we drive civics. if i could afford a beamer or lexus i could probably afford the turbo for it. lets realize the difference guys
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Originally Posted by dezod
I know, however you guys want to drive the porsche, but not pay for it. You have to pay to play. No ifs ands or buts about it.
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Do you run your fuel with tsi injectors and control box??
yes I am running the tsi injectors and tuning it was a PITA but after reading, learning, testing and more testing etc I finally got it worked out pretty good btu remember its different per car not always the same
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
yes I am running the tsi injectors and tuning it was a PITA but after reading, learning, testing and more testing etc I finally got it worked out pretty good btu remember its different per car not always the same
Is your turbo t-25?
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Yes, cars are different.
Is your turbo t-25?
Is your turbo t-25?
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
yes I'm running the t-25 TSI extreme kit with the two injectors on a TCI auto built automatic with SXX stage 2 axles and I put down much more that you did so something is really wrong with setup it seems. First get good plugs then I cna help out with the fuel settings from what i've learned.
Any additional/replacement fuel pump or FPR or anything of this sort??
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Rep Power: 328 IMO it looks as if the AFR started going VERY rich around 3500rpm and didnt flaten out around 12:1ish like it should... BUT from the HUGE spike on the AFR afterwards @ 4000rpm im im guessing that the AFR reading was faulty. Had it gone THAT lean it would have prolly made some insane HP numbers but if you look at the HP slope at that point it seems to be a gradual climb to about 5500rpm. My GUESS is at that point you either went real lean or real rich causing it to taper pretty fast on the HP. But without a reliable AFR reading its kinda hard to say.
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IMO it looks as if the AFR started going VERY rich around 3500rpm and didnt flaten out around 12:1ish like it should... BUT from the HUGE spike on the AFR afterwards @ 4000rpm im im guessing that the AFR reading was faulty. Had it gone THAT lean it would have prolly made some insane HP numbers but if you look at the HP slope at that point it seems to be a gradual climb to about 5500rpm. My GUESS is at that point you either went real lean or real rich causing it to taper pretty fast on the HP. But without a reliable AFR reading its kinda hard to say.
Do you think I need walboro fuel pump for extra fuel pressure after 4000 rpm ???
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Rep Power: 388 the TSI kit with the injectors is notorious for being to rich or to lean thats the nature of the best.. but I am running iridium IK20 step 6 and spent countless hours changing my settings. Using knowledge from some others we came up with somewhat better setting but my EX ecu is always fighting for adjustment. From what we came up with try this out.
starting at 0psi do the settings starting @ 3.0 and go 3 up each step until you reach your limit of PSI ( mine went to 12 psi)
adjustment 68%
Timer 60s
the RPM settings start at 1500 rpm.. from there do 1.2 and add .4 to each adjustement
this should give you an even curve if not something is out of it
starting at 0psi do the settings starting @ 3.0 and go 3 up each step until you reach your limit of PSI ( mine went to 12 psi)
adjustment 68%
Timer 60s
the RPM settings start at 1500 rpm.. from there do 1.2 and add .4 to each adjustement
this should give you an even curve if not something is out of it
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
the TSI kit with the injectors is notorious for being to rich or to lean thats the nature of the best.. but I am running iridium IK20 step 6 and spent countless hours changing my settings. Using knowledge from some others we came up with somewhat better setting but my EX ecu is always fighting for adjustment. From what we came up with try this out.
starting at 0psi do the settings starting @ 3.0 and go 3 up each step until you reach your limit of PSI ( mine went to 12 psi)
adjustment 68%
Timer 60s
the RPM settings start at 1500 rpm.. from there do 1.2 and add .4 to each adjustement
this should give you an even curve if not something is out of it
starting at 0psi do the settings starting @ 3.0 and go 3 up each step until you reach your limit of PSI ( mine went to 12 psi)
adjustment 68%
Timer 60s
the RPM settings start at 1500 rpm.. from there do 1.2 and add .4 to each adjustement
this should give you an even curve if not something is out of it
Thanks!
I will try it.
Tell me what else do you va for fuel system????
Walboro, fpr, fmu ???
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Good info!
Thanks!
I will try it.
Tell me what else do you va for fuel system????
Walboro, fpr, fmu ???
Thanks!
I will try it.
Tell me what else do you va for fuel system????
Walboro, fpr, fmu ???
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Rep Power: 281 ^^I used your inj settings, but did not test it out on the dyno, probably will do it closer to spring now, when weather tempreture rises.
Thanks for the settings.
Thanks for the settings.
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Originally Posted by booba5185
does it seem quicker tho?
My butt isnt telling me so.
Since I already had more/less OK setting, I would not see any big difference.
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Rep Power: 388 well if you need help on tuning the kit let me know I had mnay hours in and out with mine and finally got it all figured out then decided to pull my kit for my trace in on my rsx-s .. so hello k20 for now :-) but if you need help just say so
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
well if you need help on tuning the kit let me know I had mnay hours in and out with mine and finally got it all figured out then decided to pull my kit for my trace in on my rsx-s .. so hello k20 for now :-) but if you need help just say so
I think my stock pump cant get enough fuel when under boost.
So, no I'm searching this site and asking aroungd of what type walbro 255 fuel pump i need. Did not get firm answers as yet.
^^^ Do you know what with one of many walbo pumps I need?
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Yes, I need help.
I think my stock pump cant get enough fuel when under boost.
So, no I'm searching this site and asking aroungd of what type walbro 255 fuel pump i need. Did not get firm answers as yet.
^^^ Do you know what with one of many walbo pumps I need?
I think my stock pump cant get enough fuel when under boost.
So, no I'm searching this site and asking aroungd of what type walbro 255 fuel pump i need. Did not get firm answers as yet.
^^^ Do you know what with one of many walbo pumps I need?
you could also do the e-manage or apexi controller with the rsx injectors
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
are you sure your stock injectors are doing ok? if its not getting fuel something does not seem right.
you could also do the e-manage or apexi controller with the rsx injectors
you could also do the e-manage or apexi controller with the rsx injectors
But, if you look on my dyno chart, something happening at about 4000 rpms, this is where engine builds its power under full boost load, that little bottom out on the graph, makes me think my fuel pump not getting good fuel ammount to all 6 injectors.
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
I really want to stay with tsi 2 inj unit. Many people used it and it works for street boost levels.
But, if you look on my dyno chart, something happening at about 4000 rpms, this is where engine builds its power under full boost load, that little bottom out on the graph, makes me think my fuel pump not getting good fuel ammount to all 6 injectors.
But, if you look on my dyno chart, something happening at about 4000 rpms, this is where engine builds its power under full boost load, that little bottom out on the graph, makes me think my fuel pump not getting good fuel ammount to all 6 injectors.
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