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Cool Engine Build Up

Ive read so many posts about building up engines with injectors, cam gears etc. However, I wanna know what kind of work can I do on an engine without removing it from the engine bay. I just got a tsi kit and I want to get the most out of it while keeping a novice level, I aint no mechanic. Ive already got a exedy clutch kit and act flywheel, hks turbo timer...Anyone please add to this list, Thanks.
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you can do just about everything but sleeving it. (as long as your cylinder walls are in perfect condition)
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turboengnr - did u ever make it to the dyno w/ ur fully build motor???
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unfortunately, im still waiting on parts

ive had some companies *cough, golden eagle* that have severely postponed my buildup
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how much would that go for and what would that do for hp
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Scheiße... ich nahm nur irgendeinen Deutschen. Ich spreche nicht sehr gut. Noch erlernend. Was ist das über die Filme?
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Originally Posted by 1sikEM2


anyway if u want ur head ported and polished u gotta take off or any other head work. jsut get a spare bottom end and head and jsut send them off to get them fully built then when their done just bolt them up. thats what i plan to do. u can still drive the car and dont have it down waiting.
How much would this go for and what would it do for HP and actual engine strength???
And quit with that german, go speak that ish in Germany, not in this forum.
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I can't believe i remember any of that, it just popped in my head when i read your tag. LOL I took german in highschool, and i graduated 03'. How do you know some german?? What i typed is about all i knowLOL. Oh yeah, my favorite movie is the godfather or bladerunner or enter the dragon.
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Once you get to the point of installing that clutch and flywheel you bought, it's really not that much more work to pull the whole engine out. When you want to do major engine work, it's probably tougher to come up with money more than it is to pull an engine.
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lol. I am pretty much 100% german blood. And my childhood best friend used to live across the street from me with his g'ma, and she was born and lived in germany til she married a US soldier. Spoke german most the time.
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Scheiße... ich nahm nur irgendeinen Deutschen. Ich spreche nicht sehr gut. Noch erlernend. Was ist das über die Filme?
Ich bin auslander. Ich spreche nicht gut deutsche.

I haven't spoken German in years!
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Block sleeving is available. Exospeed Racing can do it for you.
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Ok maybe it was the way I phrased the question so let me make a foundation cause some of these feedbacks sound a little too advanced a.k.a "OVERKILL"
I just got a TSI turbo kit and I dont want my engine to break into pieces. Im not gonna be reving high numbers or boosting it pass 10 all that much(no tracks), So can you tell me what I need to do to ensure that at 10 psi, Im not gonna be blowing out my engine. Please leave some feedback. Thanks BUmP

There modified it cause I know Im not rebuilding any engine.
THanks for the feedback

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Ok maybe it was the way I phrased the question so let me make a foundation cause some of these feedbacks sound a little too advanced a.k.a "OVERKILL"
I just got a TSI turbo kit and I dont want my engine to break into pieces. Im not gonna be reving high numbers or boosting it pass 10 all that much(no tracks), although 14 would be fun. So can you tell me what I need to do to ensure that at 14 psi, Im not gonna be blowing out my engine. Please leave some feedback. Thanks BUmP

sorry, but to run 14psi safely......you will need a total motor rebuild and revamp your whole fuel system.

You need stronger pistons and rods and as for your fuel system. You will need at least 440cc injectors, upgraded in-tank fuel pump, return fuel conversion and either a e-manage or AEM ems.
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Ok maybe it was the way I phrased the question so let me make a foundation cause some of these feedbacks sound a little too advanced a.k.a "OVERKILL"
I just got a TSI turbo kit and I dont want my engine to break into pieces. Im not gonna be reving high numbers or boosting it pass 10 all that much(no tracks), So can you tell me what I need to do to ensure that at 10 psi, Im not gonna be blowing out my engine. Please leave some feedback. Thanks BUmP

There modified it cause I know Im not rebuilding any engine.
THanks for the feedback
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Ok maybe it was the way I phrased the question so let me make a foundation cause some of these feedbacks sound a little too advanced a.k.a "OVERKILL"
I just got a TSI turbo kit and I dont want my engine to break into pieces. Im not gonna be reving high numbers or boosting it pass 10 all that much(no tracks), So can you tell me what I need to do to ensure that at 10 psi, Im not gonna be blowing out my engine. Please leave some feedback. Thanks BUmP

There modified it cause I know Im not rebuilding any engine.
THanks for the feedback

Just make sure your car is tuned and your best bet would be to monitor it with a wideband. Make sure you run at least 93 octane too. Also, check the torque on your head studs every so often. Might wanna torque them 3-4 lbs more than specs.
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get arp headstuds the ones that are listed as d16z on the arp website. Get a new HG from honda when you change them and torque them to arp instructions. While your at it you can buy a blockguard for like $65 off ebay. Put some locktight on it and tap it in gently and evenly with a rubber mallet. These mods will keep your head on straight hehe. I dont recommend running more than 10 psi though, unless you are bold like some of us and can spare an engine or two here and there.
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get arp headstuds the ones that are listed as d16z on the arp website. Get a new HG from honda when you change them and torque them to arp instructions. While your at it you can buy a blockguard for like $65 off ebay. Put some locktight on it and tap it in gently and evenly with a rubber mallet. These mods will keep your head on straight hehe. I dont recommend running more than 10 psi though, unless you are bold like some of us and can spare an engine or two here and there.
Is it okay even though I have a D17a2? Also, whats the easiest way of replacing headstuds?
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yeah they fit perfect man. I have had them in my car for 2 years and havent ever popped a head gasket. What I would do if I were you is get the helms service manual. It has detailed descriptions of every procedure you will ever need to completely disassemble the whole car and put it back together again. Its pretty much a must for anyone that is going to mod a car themselves. That way you can read through the book and decide if you wanna get involved in it or not. For me I can have my head off and on in about an hour because I have changed everything and stripped anything unneccesary, heavy, or in the way. For me to try and explain the whole procedure would be very difficult because I have not worked on a stock-ish 7thgen in quite some time. Some people get away with changing one bolt out at a time but I prefer to pop the head off and replace the gasket while Im at it. I also replace the timing belt every time the head comes off. I cant help it, Im a freak. Its probably not neccesary but I got the time and money to do somewhat useless preventative maintanence.
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Aight, so headstuds, gasket, i heard some things about blockguards "Theyre useless and also disrupt flow of cooling in engine" maybe its true ill do more research no big thing. Oh yea and tuning as always. Anything else though, I was thinking along the lines of injectors crower cams, etc. Are these necessary for my situation?

And 02fpcivic you were talking about the helms service manual. Is this it:
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Thanks for the feedback and BUMP THIS MOTHA BACK UP
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yeah like they said, a good air/fuel gauge is a must, as many pressure and temp gauges you can afford as well, clutch and tuning tuning tuning!!!
It would be best to get the aem ems, even though it is expensive, it will save your engine, so you could run more boost with head studs and gasket. What i mean is that, it is easier to tune with that and you prob will not run the risk of running too lean, or atleast the chances will be lower, so you could put more strain on it, theoretically.
Also you really should change timing belt every time you take the head off!!! It is wise just leave it at that.
Also just checking your engine bay everytime before you drive, to make sure everything is in place, especially at 10psi. Caution is your best friend when turbocharging, but even being cautious you could still blow head gasket at 6psi, freaky **** can happen.
Oh yeah and alcohol injection, you could look into that as well!!!
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It would be best to get the aem ems, even though it is expensive, it will save your engine, so you could run more boost with head studs and gasket. What i mean is that, it is easier to tune with that and you prob will not run the risk of running too lean, or atleast the chances will be lower, so you could put more strain on it, theoretically.
I thought about greddy emanage and the aem ems. Its in my price range but i mean, the turbo already comes with its own fuel management:
2 extra injectors and interface block
tsi injection control unit w/ turbo timer
injection control system settings

I've even done some research and they say that neither fuel management system is optimal, it just has different uses. I found an article in here if you wanna see it. But I dont think its worth it in the long run. if you can prove me wrong, be my guest. Just dont be cruel...
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The fuel managment that comes with the tsi kit is actually not that bad. Just do nonnot use the setting they give you, search on here and you will find people who have it, talk to them!!!
Actually i think you should just get the dezod manifold, and do a custom turbo. You would have more power, learn a hell of alot as well. That of course may not be what you want, and i understand this. I might even get the TSI kit, just because lack of loot.
Oh yeah the Aem ems would only be worth it in the long run, well actually short run TOO depending on what you wanna do, how much power you are planning for.
The greddy is just a piggy back where as the aem replaces the stock ecu all together. Remember you usually get what you pay for, deals set aside.
It is just with the aem ems you have sooooo many options, you can have it set up where your car will be like a stock turboed car, well almost. I guess it will come down to what you want, the TSI kit is cheap, and does what it is supposed, give you a good amount of power increase for not too much $$$. If i were you i would get the tsi kit, head gasket, head studs. Then install the kit, run it for a couple months at like 6-7psi to get the kinks worked out, and get your self aquanted, then install the head studs, and head gasket, up the boost to 8-10psi. Then i would get the aem ems, and up the boost. Talk with 2k1civic17"GABE, he has the TSI kit so he has more experiance with it, seems like he really knows what he is doing. I wish i had even had 6psi, oh well gotta save my $$$!!!!
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I already bought the tsi kit. It came with that fuel management. Im just waiting to receive it, about 4 days from now via fedex. The reason I need those head studs is I bought dcs headers and accidently overtorqued one of the stock ones. Long story short, I need to replace 1, might as well replace all. I did a little research, and I think Im gonna do the tsi set up with an alchy/water injection system. \
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head studs arent external, they are the fasteners that hold the head down to the engine block. ARP headstuds do a serious job preventing blown HG issues.
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