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Old Jul 16, 2005
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I installed my emanage yesterday. i updated the software and firmware. I installed the emanage by using andyman97's writeup. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=217534

The car starts, no error codes are flashing but the idle is really bad. All my wiring is correct and the jumpers are set exactly as the writeup says. Anybody else run into these problems? Is there a specific startup procedure that needs to be done or is there setting within the emanage support tool that needs to be changed?
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DO you have the injector correction factor set for the RSX injectors?
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I'm not running rsx injectors. What setting do they need to be for stock injectors?
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Should not need any special setting for stock injectors.....What's the idle issue? Any CELs or E-Manage errors? Describe what's happening....
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When I start the car.. the rpms drop down to almost dieing but then jump back up to where they should be.. it just seems like its missing. you can feel the motor trembling. it never dies. there are no error messages coming from the emanage. i am unable to tell if i am throwing a cell due to the fact that my check engine light stays on due to having no cat.
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ok got something else to add.. the car is running REALLY rich like 9.xx range.
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No idea. If you hooked it up right, you shouldn't be having any problems. You shouldn't have to change any settings with the support tool to get it to run stock.
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no changes are needed at all if its just hooked up with stock injectors to get it to run properly. I would check to see what codes the cars ecm is throwin , it may be other codes along with the one for O2 sensor one because of the cat
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check to make sure the input and output wires for the map sensor are not switched
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In goes to ECU and Out goes to Map? or vise versa? also i got a code reader.. the following have come up
P0108 - MAP/BARO Circuit
P0135 - o2 Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
P0141 - o2 Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 2)

This is with the emanage unplugged and my mapsensor wires tapped back into the ecu rather than the emanage. I could not get the car to run right at all with the emanage hooked up so i needed to figure out if the car would run right when put back to stock. I left the harness plugged in but disconnected the emanage and reconnected my map sensor wire to the ecu. it runs flawlessly but without vtec. I was using the VAFC to activate vtec but since i disconnected it there is no signal to be sent out. I miss it already lol. In the morning i will hook back up the emanage and run the codes again and see what pops up. What setting should be put in if i'm hooking up stock?
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switch the map input and output. thats your problem
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switch the map input and output. thats your problem
^^^ strong possibility
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switch the map input and output. thats your problem
yeah that def fixed the problem. I swapped the wires and the car started up normal. idled normal and does not throw anymore codes, except the o2 sensor one about the cat not being there. Now i have another issue i'd like to address which is my vtec is not engaging. There's no light that blinks anymore now that the vafc2 is not there but i can def feal no "boost" in power where it usually was.. perhaps the in/out wires need to be swapped there also? I'm thinking thats what the problem is and I am about to test out my theory in a few mins.

Also, when i plug into the emanage with my laptop, start the program.. no maps load up.. Should I have to import/export everytime i start? Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it.
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Follow up to last post..

Vtec engagment solved.. just had to swap the wires again. So now everthing seems to be working fine.
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yeah that def fixed the problem. I swapped the wires and the car started up normal. idled normal and does not throw anymore codes, except the o2 sensor one about the cat not being there. Now i have another issue i'd like to address which is my vtec is not engaging. There's no light that blinks anymore now that the vafc2 is not there but i can def feal no "boost" in power where it usually was.. perhaps the in/out wires need to be swapped there also? I'm thinking thats what the problem is and I am about to test out my theory in a few mins.

Also, when i plug into the emanage with my laptop, start the program.. no maps load up.. Should I have to import/export everytime i start? Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it.
It should prompt you when you hook in to it if you want to something or other each time. After it does that then you can select what map you want to look at/adjust
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i don't get a prompt.. it says its online and stuff but no maps are displayed.
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i don't get a prompt.. it says its online and stuff but no maps are displayed.
BRB, gunna go hook up to see what it says
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here is what i get from mine soon as i turn the key on.....

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then after i click ok, it loads then the map buttons go from gray'd out to clickable to view
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okay lemme give that a shot.. lets see what i get
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if you still have no maps available to look at.... Did you go into settings and set it up and select what maps you want available? If you do make sure to not change the injector ratio unless you have the bigger ones installed
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i get no kinda of message box like that. I turn the key on.. its online but my maps aren't clickable. perhaps the maps arent loading?
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i did change what ones i wanted visible but it does not stay.. i click confirm and i see the maps. when i try to reload the support tool it goes back to not displaying anything.
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have you tried this ?

1) Turn your car to ON
2) Go to the FILES section of the yahoo group and download the latest
US
language and the latest Main unit operating system.
3) Bring up your support tool to ONLINE
4) Go to COMMUNICATION and click on MAIN UNIT UPDATE
5) When it prompts you to TURN OFF MAIN UNIT, turn your key to OFF
position.
6) Click OK
7) Turn ignition to ON
8) Bring up your support tool to ONLINE.
9) Go to SETTINGS and click on PARAMETER SETTINGS
10) Make all your changes and select relevant maps. If you do not have
the additional harnesses, check the "Air Flow Adjustment Map". Also set
your Throttle Setting.
11) Click on CONFIRM. It will pop up asking you to turn off ignition
once. Go ahead and turn ignition to OFF. Click OK.
12) Turn ignition to ON. Reconnect support tool so it is ONLINE.
13) Go to COMMUNICATION and then click on EXPORT DATA.
14) Once that is done, click on CONFIRM for any pop ups you get. Then
turn the ignition to OFF.
15) Turn the ignition to ON and proceed to turn the car ON.


From this point on, NEVER reconfigure the PARAMETER SETTINGS or export
to main unit!!! This is what screws things up.

Any change you make on your air-flow map are automatically updated with
the main unit thus there is no need to "export".

Every time you start up your support tool and want to modify the maps
on the main unit, just IMPORT from the main unit and proceed to modify
it.
But again, never mess around with the PARAMETER SETTINGS or EXPORT to
main unit unless you go through the steps above again.
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no but i will give it a try..
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eh no good.. followed the directions.. if i want to go and view/edit the maps i turn the ign to on.. start up the support tool.. nothing.. no maps load no popups or anything. the maps should load from the emanage right?
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eh no good.. followed the directions.. if i want to go and view/edit the maps i turn the ign to on.. start up the support tool.. nothing.. no maps load no popups or anything. the maps should load from the emanage right?
assuming that you did the settings properly , yes it should load the maps from the e-manage when you key on. hmmmm gunna do some searching.....
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Originally Posted by XSRCivic
yeah that def fixed the problem. I swapped the wires and the car started up normal. idled normal and does not throw anymore codes, except the o2 sensor one about the cat not being there. Now i have another issue i'd like to address which is my vtec is not engaging. There's no light that blinks anymore now that the vafc2 is not there but i can def feal no "boost" in power where it usually was.. perhaps the in/out wires need to be swapped there also? I'm thinking thats what the problem is and I am about to test out my theory in a few mins.

Also, when i plug into the emanage with my laptop, start the program.. no maps load up.. Should I have to import/export everytime i start? Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it.

word. yeah, you should have to import them everytime you load up. that is atleast how it was on my 6thgen si. as far as exporting, it should auto update w/ the changes you mkake, so you should never have to export

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yeah i did some experimenting with vtec engagment and it does saves my changes.. but like you said i will have to import my maps from the emanage so it seems. no big deal for that i guess, i was just hoping that it wouldnt update the changes i made and what not. I'll keep messing with it maybe it will work out later on down the line. i'm just happy that the car is running like its supposed to and vtec is engaging properly. thanks for the help everyone. I repped whoever gave me useful info.
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