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Old 11-02-2004
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SEMA and HASPORT with GUESS WHAT

u got urself guessing huh.. but guess what hasport had on display at sema today.... they had a 2001 civic with a... DRUM ROLL PLEASE.... a B18C and the motor mounts... APPLAUSE NOW..... hondata was there too but havent had a chance to talk to them yet
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thats an integra gsr motor right? correct me if im wrong please. that would be an excelent swap, but they stopped tegs in 2000, so it wouldnt be legal right?
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... b-series mounts for the 2k1's were prototyped and made on another member's car a long time ago. unless they have plans for production, this is old news.
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they said they were going through with production early next year
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There is only one reason to show a product at SEMA. To issue its plans for production. It costs money to show at SEMA. So you pay the money to garner interest in your product.

Many things are not street legal. Many states do not have the same restrictions as California. I live where there are no restrictions.

I could easily put a older engine in my car. I like the K series. But they are expensive and they spin the wrong way. A B series should fit. As the D16 is the relative same size as the D17. Yes, they are older technology, but there exists a lot of stuff for them.
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I will never be able to afford a swap, so it doesn't really matter.
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this is the stuff that we 7thers need!!! hopefully hondata will have good news...
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i still don't know why ppl would wanna swap a B series engine when the K series is so much a better motor. Grant you, we haven't seen huge HP from them yet like compared to the B series........but give it time.
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that freakin awsome.now i can do a b16 or a b18 and still have a bunch of money to mod it out. then buys a k20. very cool.
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Where was this car at? I didn't see it in the HASport booth? Did I miss something?
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imma heading back out there this afternoon.. imma get some pics
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i still don't know why ppl would wanna swap a B series engine when the K series is so much a better motor. Grant you, we haven't seen huge HP from them yet like compared to the B series........but give it time.
yes wouldnt it be a perfect world if we all could afford K swaps... but not everyone has that luxory and can only save so much or have a budget.....
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can't wait to see the pictures
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i need it would happen just needed some time. that would be nice but alas i am a broke azz as well. some maybe in a sweet dream.
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can people tell me why people with older cars like 90-00 are putting a k series in their car?

because its a way better engine than a b series

in the long run it will be cheaper and better with the glut of products for the k series engine. and people are currently driving around 700 hp daily driven turbos. it is currently alot easier and better to turbo a k series engine and be able to extract more HP
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Originally Posted by HondaLuver
can people tell me why people with older cars like 90-00 are putting a k series in their car?

because its a way better engine than a b series

in the long run it will be cheaper and better with the glut of products for the k series engine. and people are currently driving around 700 hp daily driven turbos. it is currently alot easier and better to turbo a k series engine and be able to extract more HP
U might be able to get more power out of the k series, but who honestly want to drive a 700 hp front wheel drive car daily. There would be no traction at all. Ive driven a 450 horse civic and it would spin in 4th. I just want 300 WHP and a b18 would be cheaper than getting a k20.
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Originally Posted by 2blu
U might be able to get more power out of the k series, but who honestly want to drive a 700 hp front wheel drive car daily. There would be no traction at all. Ive driven a 450 horse civic and it would spin in 4th. I just want 300 WHP and a b18 would be cheaper than getting a k20.
That's why you turn down the boost for daily driving. Anything that makes 600hp with boost, can make less than 300hp with less boost, and then it's perfectly drivable.
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teh b18c1 is from the gsr, b18c5 is usdm itr, b18c is JDM ITR
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Few things to remember - the gauges, AC, and other controls rely on the multiplex bus for the 2001+ series cars. If you swap in a B series into the 2001+ civic (regardless if it came from a 2001 car), you are still going to need the ECU, which is incompatible with this. NONE of your gauges and controls will work, unless either Hondata comes up with something, or Hasport has figured it out (which I doubt).....

So - that means this will probably NOT be a daily driven car...
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thats falking great! selling my k20a3, and have a b20z laying in the closet...can you say 220whp with a vtec head and high compression pistons!!! woooooo-hooooo! *** the guages....somebody will have something, or just change over to autometer...
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*** the guages....somebody will have something, or just change over to autometer...

You won't be saying that when you have a complete wiring mess inside and outside the car....
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i see thier point. b series are way better than k's other than in perfomance. why u ask?

cheaper-by alot.
more parts for them- that are cheap!
tested, tried & proven.
not everyone needs 300whp on their civic for daily driving. 200-250 whp around here pwns.
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welll.. i am at my friends house and just got back from sema.. got vid and pics of the civic with the b18 in it... will post it when i get home later on
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see the 7thgen in this months issue of HT? Has a b16 motor or B18 destroked I think......
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hmmm yea i was thinking that the b series motor would be a good alternative to people who dont need the potential of a K series.
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this car could be found in the aem booth

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upon further interviews with the aem directors and guys from hasprot.. who by the way was show casing a crx with a k20 swap.. basically they were pushing there k20 mounts... anyways they used the aem car as a prototype to help get info about what needs to be done to make the b18 mounts... imma talk with the hasport guys for more interviewing cause i got one scheduled for tomorrow
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