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Old Oct 27, 2004
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Ive been hearing from ALOT of people 50 shot is the safest to run on a stock d series engine.. some say 35 shot is safer... what is the RECOMENDED shot without messing anything up. Ive read alot and i just want a final opinion set for a good amount of nitrous to be sprayed in an engine.

Ive also heard each shot is equal to 1 HP in our cars
35 shot = 35 hp
50 shot = 50 hp
ect...
is this true?
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35 shot is safer than a 50 shot any day of the wk.

I suggest a 35 dry shot.........i'm not to keen on wet kits.

btw, the 35 shot = 35 hp is a general rule of thumb, but not always accurate
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I'd say go with a wet kit (50 shot). People that spray nitrous have said that you wont feel much of a gain with a 35 shot. The reason for going with a wet kit over a dry kit, the wet kit adds fuel along with the n2o, which will help prevent a lean condition (detonation).
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I'm not tryin to be a **** here but why is it that this question accompanied with a fairly large amount of paranoia still continuously floats around this forum in spite of the plenty of feedback that has been given by those who have actually used and have been using nitrous for a good while? There are many people on this site who have used every shot up to a 75 plenty of times, including myself and have experienced zero problems. Every shot (up to 75) should be safe on a wet kit. Also I'd like to add, I still dont have any fuel management. While the lack of any ability to tune may not be good, I still have not experienced any trouble nor have their been any signs of trouble.
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Originally Posted by KalliGarri
Ive also heard each shot is equal to 1 HP in our cars
35 shot = 35 hp
50 shot = 50 hp
ect...
is this true?
That's a rough estimate for power increase at the fly. Take into consideration power loss from the tranny.

Nitrous is fun for torque
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i use to run 65 shot , everything perfect whit spark plugs denso IK22.... the kit was zex
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IMO, dry kits are safer than wet kits to a certain extent. What most ppl don't know is that n2o will only combust when it is mixed with fuel. With a wet kit, the added fuel leads to combustion in the IM...........and considering that ours is only plastic.........this is not good.

OBD II cars will supply enough fuel for a 35 shot and maybe even a 50 shot. Using a 75 shot with no tuning is calling for disaster.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec

OBD II cars will supply enough fuel for a 35 shot and maybe even a 50 shot. Using a 75 shot with no tuning is calling for disaster.
Really... and you know this because? Have you known any 7th gen owner with no fuel management to blow anything or burn anything up? How many members on this site can you name that have experienced problems running a 75 shot without any type of fuel management? Do you have any proof at all to back this statement up? I've been using this set up the way it is for about a year now and still no probs like I said earlier. I've always checked my plugs for signs of overheating and detonation and they have always looked good. I have friends (other honda/acura owners) who have actually melted plugs before on numerous counts and still their engines have never blown. While I have mentioned earlier that it is not that great to be untuned, it is still safe to run a 75 shot on our 7th gens. People are just too paranoid on this issue I think.
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Really... and you know this because? Have you known any 7th gen owner with no fuel management to blow anything or burn anything up? How many members on this site can you name that have experienced problems running a 75 shot without any type of fuel management? Do you have any proof at all to back this statement up? I've been using this set up the way it is for about a year now and still no probs like I said earlier. I've always checked my plugs for signs of overheating and detonation and they have always looked good. I have friends (other honda/acura owners) who have actually melted plugs before on numerous counts and still their engines have never blown. While I have mentioned earlier that it is not that great to be untuned, it is still safe to run a 75 shot on our 7th gens. People are just too paranoid on this issue I think.
thank you for being a ***

as a matter of fact, 01wingswestcivic blew his IM with spray as a result of puddling.

Congrats on running a 75 shot and no problems.........u are lucky
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
thank you for being a ***

as a matter of fact, 01wingswestcivic blew his IM with spray as a result of puddling.

Congrats on running a 75 shot and no problems.........u are lucky
Not trying to be an *** dude...you made a statement which totally contradicts the point I was trying to make and I asked you some simple questions to see if I were wrong in anyway. I'm sorry that you're taking offense. BTW, How would lack of tuning cause a nitrous back fire to blow up an intake manifold? Can that be explained? Can the same incident happen while using a 35 or 50 shot? Probably so.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
Really... and you know this because? Have you known any 7th gen owner with no fuel management to blow anything or burn anything up? How many members on this site can you name that have experienced problems running a 75 shot without any type of fuel management? Do you have any proof at all to back this statement up? I've been using this set up the way it is for about a year now and still no probs like I said earlier. I've always checked my plugs for signs of overheating and detonation and they have always looked good. I have friends (other honda/acura owners) who have actually melted plugs before on numerous counts and still their engines have never blown. While I have mentioned earlier that it is not that great to be untuned, it is still safe to run a 75 shot on our 7th gens. People are just too paranoid on this issue I think.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
Not trying to be an *** dude...you made a statement which totally contradicts the point I was trying to make and I asked you some simple questions to see if I were wrong in anyway. I'm sorry that you're taking offense. BTW, How would lack of tuning cause a nitrous back fire to blow up an intake manifold? Can that be explained? Can the same incident happen while using a 35 or 50 shot? Probably so.

well, i can't recall anyone blowing their motor from spray...........but i guarantee that after time..........the ringlands will be shot.

anyway, IMO.......... a 35 dry shot is best..........but if u want a 50 shot, then get a wet kit.
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if this is all you know of nitrous... i suggest not getting it until you do WAY WAY WAY more research,,,,,, if tuned right its all good though, i have friends with like 30k on there D17s pushing 75 shot.....
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IMO wet is the way to go , but as said above if it pools in the IM its a BIG BANG! The key is make damn sure the RPM's are up before you spray! I've never had a problem yet on 75hp
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
IMO wet is the way to go , but as said above if it pools in the IM its a BIG BANG! The key is make damn sure the RPM's are up before you spray! I've never had a problem yet on 75hp
thank you...here we have yet again another survivor giving his testimony of his history with the ever so dangerous 75 shot.
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it may work a couple times, even a couple months, but dont think that means it is fine. do you honestly think that your wngine will run just like new with an addition 75hp being shot through it? if you say yes, then you are an idiot. it is gonna put alot of stress on your engine and transmission/clutch and without the proper tuning and build up of the engine, you are almost guaranteed to have problems down the road. also, dont forget the spark plugs. i bet yours are gettin pretty worn out from runnin a 75 shot, not a good idea to use some stock ones with nitrous. best to get some -2 plugs atleast.but hey, if this is all find with you, go for it.
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Originally Posted by abmerop18
it may work a couple times, even a couple months, but dont think that means it is fine. do you honestly think that your wngine will run just like new with an addition 75hp being shot through it? if you say yes, then you are an idiot. it is gonna put alot of stress on your engine and transmission/clutch and without the proper tuning and build up of the engine, you are almost guaranteed to have problems down the road. also, dont forget the spark plugs. i bet yours are gettin pretty worn out from runnin a 75 shot, not a good idea to use some stock ones with nitrous. best to get some -2 plugs atleast.but hey, if this is all find with you, go for it.

You have no idea how I maintain my car and everyone knows that you're supposed to use a two step colder plug and to keep them changed every bottle or two. That is no secret. You apparently didnt read my previous post either. Have you ever used nitrous in any car of yours before?
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ok then if you maintain your car so well, what kind of internals you got to help so you dont fry a piston? what kind of cam are you running? which performance clutch are you using?
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lol yall are funny... all i asked was a simple question.. no need to bitch at eachother
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i dont find this funny, i find it OLD! everytime a nitrous question comes up cracker boy here tells everyone that "HEY ITS OK TO SLAP A 75 SHOT ON AND GO". first of all stop telling people this ****. telling an inexperienced nitrous user to go ahead and do it nothing else is out of ur mind, first of all they dont know how to use it. might as well say slap a turbo on there and go. tuning is of the utmost importance regardless of how many damn friends with HONDA/ACURA u have. and as far as maintaining the car, what are u saying, u pull the head once a week to make sure everything is A OK. i dont think so. so what other maintainence do u do. change the fluids and plugs. for anyone else reading this thread, dont get the idea that slapping a 75 shot is going to work to perfection
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Originally Posted by abmerop18
ok then if you maintain your car so well, what kind of internals you got to help so you dont fry a piston? what kind of cam are you running? which performance clutch are you using?
I just put 1200 into my suspension. My clutch is next on the list of things to get since I already have my drags, but I dont think the clutch was really apart of the question because a clutch is needed anyway with a big HP upgrade. It was "which shot is safest?" in regards to the motor which is how I interpreted it. No matter how you look at it, no matter how you're setting up your engine, you're gonna be running it hard and you're going to endure some wear and tear on your parts. Is nitrous safe up to a 75 shot with a wet kit on a 7th gen within an acceptable margin safeness, reliablility, and longevity? I believe it is and a lot of other people seem to agree from whom I've spoken with.
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Originally Posted by C2i0v0i1C
i dont find this funny, i find it OLD! everytime a nitrous question comes up cracker boy here tells everyone that "HEY ITS OK TO SLAP A 75 SHOT ON AND GO". first of all stop telling people this ****. telling an inexperienced nitrous user to go ahead and do it nothing else is out of ur mind, first of all they dont know how to use it. might as well say slap a turbo on there and go. tuning is of the utmost importance regardless of how many damn friends with HONDA/ACURA u have. and as far as maintaining the car, what are u saying, u pull the head once a week to make sure everything is A OK. i dont think so. so what other maintainence do u do. change the fluids and plugs. for anyone else reading this thread, dont get the idea that slapping a 75 shot is going to work to perfection

75,000 miles from now I'll still bere here on this forum talking my "****" as you like to describe it and I'll still be here speaking from what I have experienced with other members because I'm entitled to do so. If you dont like it, tough ****. I know you dont like me and I really dont care.
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The point is that people have done it, but you better have a clue WTF you are doing before you do... And don't bust my *****, I've used N2O for over 8 years on all diff vehicles and have learned the hard way what to do and what not to do...


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