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Old Oct 25, 2004
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k i need some info here, my friend has an engine from i think a 93 civic, he says it;s a dohc so i was wondering if anyone new if itcould be a b16a or a b16b i'm pretty sure they'er the same, i just want to make sure cause i might buy it for my civc and drop it in.
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The DOHC civic engine didn't come to the states until 1999 with the Si coupe. They had a civic Si back then but it was SOHC. I suppose it's possible he has a JDM civc engine which in that case would be a ZC DOHC, but those things only had 130 HP and the aftermarket scene is very little for these. Check the code on the side of his engine and see what the thing is. Maybe he doent know his a$$ from his elbow and thinks hes got something sweet. You want a B16a. Those are awesome and have a huge aftermarket scene. What year Vic do you have?
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it will say b16a or b16b on the block right where the tranny bolts on ... but if ur civic is newer than the engine it is illegal for u to swap it in.. u wont pass emissions but if ur in louisiana like me they dont even do emissions yet so it be ok b16a is a jspec motor its 170 hp b16a2 or 3 is usdm .. 160 hp due to lower compression. b16b is a type r motor 180 hp lsd tranny due to high compression ceramic coated pistons and a higher rev limit.. i doubt its a b16b not many of those around in the states and for the money buying a b16b u can almost buy a b18c5 integra type R motor.. and another thing if its a 95 or older engine its obd1 so u will need a conversion for ur harness if urs is a 96 or newer civic .. if its a jspec b16a its obd0 which is a obd1 ecu with obd2 plugs.. means it acts like a obd1 ecu which always runs better.. got any more questions give me a reply ill be glad to help have a nice day
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Originally Posted by BERGER
k i need some info here, my friend has an engine from i think a 93 civic, he says it;s a dohc so i was wondering if anyone new if itcould be a b16a or a b16b i'm pretty sure they'er the same, i just want to make sure cause i might buy it for my civc and drop it in.
if he has a dohc motor, then it's a swap ... which swap? who knows. check the engine code stamped on the block

b16a and b16b's are very different ... b16a's are 160 hp, 108 tq, approximately ...

b16b's are essentially integra type r motors ... they are destroked b18c blocks with a b16 crank (I believe), factory ported b16 head etc etc ... the good stuff.

and you can't put a B motor into a 7thgen ... it's not legal and they don't have the proper mounts out ... unless you get custom ones
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i'll be looking at it tomorrow, i have a 2001 civic. and i don't think they have the laws up here yet for the emissions so i think i'll be good. just need to find someone to help put it in.. if it's just a regular engine and nothing special then i have another engine in mind and it's a tye r engine, and if i can't get that then i'm going to wait for the k20 prices to come down or find a wrecked rsx -s
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its gonna be a tough install u are gonna need an experienced shop to make custom motor mounts axles and ur gonna have to splice alot of **** on the harness to make it work ur gonna spend too much money getting this done just go custom turbo kit or k-series swap... ud be faster and prob richer than with the b-series stick with ur own generation motor .. im sure many people agree with me
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
if he has a dohc motor, then it's a swap ... which swap? who knows. check the engine code stamped on the block

b16a and b16b's are very different ... b16a's are 160 hp, 108 tq, approximately ...

b16b's are essentially integra type r motors ... they are destroked b18c blocks with a b16 crank (I believe), factory ported b16 head etc etc ... the good stuff.

and you can't put a B motor into a 7thgen ... it's not legal and they don't have the proper mounts out ... unless you get custom ones
As long as he has a 2001 and gets an ITR from a 2001, it's perfectly legal.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
if he has a dohc motor, then it's a swap ... which swap? who knows. check the engine code stamped on the block

b16a and b16b's are very different ... b16a's are 160 hp, 108 tq, approximately ...

b16b's are essentially integra type r motors ... they are destroked b18c blocks with a b16 crank (I believe), factory ported b16 head etc etc ... the good stuff.

and you can't put a B motor into a 7thgen ... it's not legal and they don't have the proper mounts out ... unless you get custom ones
b16b isnt a teggy type r block its just a b16 block with high compression ceramic coated pistons and a built up b16** head nothing like a teggy type r

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Originally Posted by taz757
As long as he has a 2001 and gets an ITR from a 2001, it's perfectly legal.
true but hes gonna pay out the *** or never get the motor in right the custom mounts and axles alone are gonna be horribly expensive DONT DO IT
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Originally Posted by Steak84SS
The DOHC civic engine didn't come to the states until 1999 with the Si coupe. They had a civic Si back then but it was SOHC. I suppose it's possible he has a JDM civc engine which in that case would be a ZC DOHC, but those things only had 130 HP and the aftermarket scene is very little for these. Check the code on the side of his engine and see what the thing is. Maybe he doent know his a$$ from his elbow and thinks hes got something sweet. You want a B16a. Those are awesome and have a huge aftermarket scene. What year Vic do you have?
the had dohc b16a2 in the 96 del sol in the states which basically is the civic.. and they had jdm b16a SiR1 in civics from 92 check out auto modilista the video game for ps2 u can use that car.. and in 96 they came out with the jdm b16a SiR2 obd0 in the civics in japan thats what i have in my 98 vic
and the b16a3 is the 99-00 civic si in america.. i could go on for days canada has the b16a2 in thier SiR there are so many diff kind of civics in diff places in the world every country just about has their own version..
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6G Japan '97-'00 B16B 1595 10.8:1 184hp@8200/118ft/lbs@7500
6G Japan '96-'00 B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800/118ft/lbs@4500
6G Europe '96-'00 B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800/118ft/lbs@4500
5G Japan '92-'95 B16A 1595 10.4:1 168hp@7800/118ftlbs@7300
4G Europe '89-'92 B16A1 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/111ft/lbs@7000
4G Japan '88-'91 ZC 1595 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106ft/lbs@5700
4G Japan '89-'92 B16A 1595 10.2:1 158hp@7600/112ft/lbs@7000
4G Japan '90-'91 B16A1 1595 10.4:1 160hp@7600/111ft/lbs@7000
3G Japan '86-'87 ZC 1595 9.6:1 129hp@6800/106ft/lbs@5700
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thanks, if i need any help with it i'll come to you for it.
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Originally Posted by taz757
As long as he has a 2001 and gets an ITR from a 2001, it's perfectly legal.
I'm trying to sway him from a B series, can't u see?
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Originally Posted by J-spec-SiR2
b16b isnt a teggy type r block its just a b16 block with high compression ceramic coated pistons and a built up b16** head nothing like a teggy type r
you're wrong. b16b has a destroked b18c block
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Originally Posted by J-spec-SiR2
and the b16a3 is the 99-00 civic si in america..
usdm b16 is b16a2

self proclaimed b16 guru?

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I forgot about the Del Sol. Either way, this guy is in WAY over his head if he swaps a B. Bad Move. Spend the money on the SF Turbo kit.
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okay, about all this legal stuff. some of you people are stupid, at registration, they don't check the car & inspection is a joke, throw down some extra money like all the domestics do when they want to pass inspections and viola!

also, in nopi's racewars, the dragger don't even use k-series, they all use b-series. parts are cheaper and readily accessible.
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im sry it was a mistype the b16a3 is inthe 99-00 del sol si i was putting down alot of info i got mixed up
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Originally Posted by J-spec-SiR2
im sry it was a mistype the b16a3 is inthe 99-00 del sol si i was putting down alot of info i got mixed up
wow I thought you were dumb, but now you're an idiot. 97 was the last year they made del sol's

b16 guru my ***
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Originally Posted by Steak84SS
I forgot about the Del Sol. Either way, this guy is in WAY over his head if he swaps a B. Bad Move. Spend the money on the SF Turbo kit.
if u read earlier in the thread i said save ur money for a turbo of a k series

as for the nopi race cars they use steel tubed **frame custom for the b series with a fiberglass front clip .. like he is gonna do that u were on the short bus werent u..
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