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Highest posible HP /w d17?

Highest HP /w d17. What kind of power could someone get /w d17 turbo and all the engine mods or is the d17 not worth it?
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no one knows for sure yet, but there have been members who have broken the 200 mark.
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D17 is totally worth it. 200WHP is easy with a boosted application (on a 5 speed).

If you buld the motor completely, I say the limit would be about 400 hp or so, providing your axels and tranny can take it.
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Originally Posted by pagefault
Highest HP /w d17. What kind of power could someone get /w d17 turbo and all the engine mods or is the d17 not worth it?
Hey, it's the torque that matters. TQ is what makes fun. That instant get up and go acceleration of your minute 4 banger.


My automatic 7GC > Stock RSX Type S
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My automatic 7GC > Stock RSX Type S
I thought you said you only made 126.1 whp?
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Originally Posted by ZdS03Civic
I thought you said you only made 126.1 whp?
are u kidding w/ a turbo only made 126.1whp.
If it is like that I am going to sell mine.
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D17=t3h suck
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Originally Posted by STL01Civic
are u kidding w/ a turbo only made 126.1whp.
If it is like that I am going to sell mine.
He had boost controller issues and wastegate problems if I remember correctly.
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Sorry Dezod didnt intend to trash talk your kit

forgive me I want boost
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Originally Posted by ZdS03Civic
He had boost controller issues and wastegate problems if I remember correctly.
Correct my friend, but TQ is what made the race a blow out. Read the thread.....I roll raced my buddy in his Type S from 40 MPH on 5.5 PSI and walked on him. Mind you.....my Civic put down 167.8 lbs of TQ and the RSX Type S only has 143 lbs of TQ according to factory specs.

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Originally Posted by dezod
This 7GC is > a bone stock RSX Type S


I roll raced my buddy Ken from a 40 in his bone stock RSX Type S.......


We got next to each other, he down shifted a gear or 2, I heard it.....

I let the turbo start spooling at 3500 or so RPMS......He nails it, I nail it....


The turbo spools.....he is inching ahead......I start walkin up on him......Suddenly a fender......then a entire car, then a little more.....we then shut down.....I was doin about 75-80. This is one fast automajic!

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^^ Imagine 8psi
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Originally Posted by ZdS03Civic
^^ Imagine 8psi
Exactly. I'd love to put down 200+ lbs of TQ at 8 PSI. Then I'd go for a WRX to toast next.
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A VW Golf TDI only has 90 horsepower. Horsepower means nothing, its all about torque.

the VW TDI engine produces 250 ft lb. TQ, while only measures 90 HP.

Dezod's kit looks damn nice. It should produce some nice numbers on a D17 after all the issues are worked out.
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Originally Posted by cambo
A VW Golf TDI only has 90 horsepower. Horsepower means nothing, its all about torque.

the VW TDI engine produces 250 ft lb. TQ, while only measures 90 HP.

Dezod's kit looks damn nice. It should produce some nice numbers on a D17 after all the issues are worked out.
SEE. THERE WE GO~
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Originally Posted by MadWheel

If you buld the motor completely, I say the limit would be about 400 hp or so, providing your axels and tranny can take it.

yeah, i agree. You can obtain 400whp........and i am sure there are some that can put down about 450whp.
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I don't think its worth it though.
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on stock internals, with tuning and getting all the bugs worked out, you can probably hit 250 whp out of the D17. Don't know if the axle/tranny can handle it though.
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its all a matter of how deep your pockets are, never say never. cause when you do SOMEONE will make that HP number!
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Mechanically the engine can be built up to practically do anything. Electronically - well, we're fvcked right now.

The AEM EMS would be the ONLY standalone (besides the motec) which could handle that much HP or torque on the d17. And when you go to a standalone - you lose a lot of functionality of your car (a lot of gauges are run on the multiplex bus - which means kiss them good bye!). Too bad AEM hasn't officially released the EMS yet.
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you guys are forgetting the whole basic idea that the D17 is a B17 with a SOHC head, same crank and all, with forged internals, not a bad motor... i believe i was putting down 220hp or so before i ripped my head off, only to find out i had 2 blown cylinders worthof headgasket,... no internal damage at all... with my new head at 9psi i predict 270hp +... WHP at that... i already walked a few Stis before taking the car apart, WRX's are easy, only hard off thte line obviously.... this motor has good potential, and EMS isnt the only good system, emanage has been used,m as well as a few "secret" ones only V8s use, but we can convert... when i hit a 12.7 or so it wil be HILARIOUS.... hehehehe.. and dont think i dont have the knowledge or tuning skills... stock injectors, no return line... heheheh... i have secrets
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Originally Posted by futurersxswap
you guys are forgetting the whole basic idea that the D17 is a B17 with a SOHC head, same crank and all, with forged internals, not a bad motor... i believe i was putting down 220hp or so before i ripped my head off, only to find out i had 2 blown cylinders worthof headgasket,... no internal damage at all... with my new head at 9psi i predict 270hp +... WHP at that... i already walked a few Stis before taking the car apart, WRX's are easy, only hard off thte line obviously.... this motor has good potential, and EMS isnt the only good system, emanage has been used,m as well as a few "secret" ones only V8s use, but we can convert... when i hit a 12.7 or so it wil be HILARIOUS.... hehehehe.. and dont think i dont have the knowledge or tuning skills... stock injectors, no return line... heheheh... i have secrets

damn, where have u been Todd.

And no offense.....but 270whp on a stock bottom end, stock injectors and at 9psi won't happen. Prove me wrong though

Are you gonna use D.ickman's PnP head ????

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Im trying to get 230-250whp hopefully next month. We'll see how the dyno goes. I know i'll easily be over 200whp but i wanna get near 290 crank hp, that'll be pretty bitchin in a civic. Man, i dont know how far im going to push this, turbo is like crack, i get a little and i want more more more
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Originally Posted by civicskater
Man, i dont know how far im going to push this, turbo is like crack, i get a little and i want more more more

word, i just wanted a little boost and now i am hooked. I am shooting for a goal whp of 220.
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Originally Posted by futurersxswap
you guys are forgetting the whole basic idea that the D17 is a B17 with a SOHC head, same crank and all, with forged internals, not a bad motor... i believe i was putting down 220hp or so before i ripped my head off, only to find out i had 2 blown cylinders worthof headgasket,... no internal damage at all... with my new head at 9psi i predict 270hp +... WHP at that... i already walked a few Stis before taking the car apart, WRX's are easy, only hard off thte line obviously.... this motor has good potential, and EMS isnt the only good system, emanage has been used,m as well as a few "secret" ones only V8s use, but we can convert... when i hit a 12.7 or so it wil be HILARIOUS.... hehehehe.. and dont think i dont have the knowledge or tuning skills... stock injectors, no return line... heheheh... i have secrets

270 whp at 9psi, and getting a 12.7 quarter....never gunna haapen with these mods
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u think a turbo kit, PNP, crank pulley that is going to **** **** up, blockguard, and a synapse map sensor thingy, are going to get u there, NOT considering u dont know that its called a missing link, stay away for another 5 months
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i hav abot 385hp

my mod: apc intake 15hp
dual heders 20hp
3inch exost 35hp
lower 10hp
blue lite 5hp
wing 10hp
vtech 100hp at 7400 rpm
turbo 250hp
b16a 180hp

next mod: maybe add biger heders or add vtech from type-r in japan.
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Originally Posted by silo454
i hav abot 385hp

my mod: apc intake 15hp
dual heders 20hp
3inch exost 35hp
lower 10hp
blue lite 5hp
wing 10hp
vtech 100hp at 7400 rpm
turbo 250hp
b16a 180hp

next mod: maybe add biger heders or add vtech from type-r in japan.
Actually that's 625.
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Originally Posted by silo454
i hav abot 385hp

my mod: apc intake 15hp
dual heders 20hp
3inch exost 35hp
lower 10hp
blue lite 5hp
wing 10hp
vtech 100hp at 7400 rpm
turbo 250hp
b16a 180hp

next mod: maybe add biger heders or add vtech from type-r in japan.
uhh.. u forgot something

FAST AND FURIOUS STICKERS : 100hp
THE LOOK ON UR FACE WHEN A 300hp WRX beats ur sorrie (so called) 700+ hp : priceless
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