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Old Apr 12, 2004
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Question 0 psi?

Okay, this is a noob question, but I have heard that it's kinda hard on the D17 to boost, and after a while, the engine could be harmed. I'm planning to keep my car for as long as I can/want, and if I boost, I'm sure I'll want it for a long time. Anyhow, I was wondering, if I get a turbo kit and boost controller, could I just keep my boost at 0 psi under easy driving conditions? In other words, can I turn "off" the turbo [I know the gist of how turbos work, but I mean to ask if I could somehow have the exhaust not make the turbo spool or something]?
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THat sounds interesting, I understand how turbos work, and I would for sure get one if I could do that
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no, you can not run 0 psi.......if you have a internal wastegate like the SF kit has, that is set at around 4-5 psi. You cannot run any lower than that.
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is there a way to get a wastegate, and crank it to the open position so when the exhaust fumes gets spooled, it gets dumped right out the waste gates? thus u'll have 0 or really close to 0 psi?
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yo all YOU DO it adjust the wastegate rod to 0.
done simple.
if u wanna be gay and possilbly **** up ur turbo u can just remove the rod from the Downpipe and the wastegate will stay open.
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
no, you can not run 0 psi.......if you have a internal wastegate like the SF kit has, that is set at around 4-5 psi. You cannot run any lower than that.

lol u dont even have ur kit yet u f ucker .. how would u know?
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lol u dont even have ur kit yet u f ucker .. how would u know?
that's right, i forgot that you have to have a turbo to know something
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
that's right, i forgot that you have to have a turbo to know something

lol aparently...
cause u dont know how a wastegate acuator rod works.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
lol aparently...
cause u dont know how a wastegate acuator rod works.
You must mean be talking about the acutator that is sitting right here in my room.

I don't know why you are always the tough guy on here and try to make ppl out to be idiots. If i ever need help, i will remember who not to ask.
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
You must mean be talking about the acutator that is sitting right here in my room.

I don't know why you are always the tough guy on here and try to make ppl out to be idiots. If i ever need help, i will remember who not to ask.

exactly dont ask me.

if u took notice to the rod.. its THREADED and adjustable-

wait maybe i just made this up

here dude- learn something



http://www.volvotuning.com/wastegate.html
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
lol u dont even have ur kit yet u f ucker .. how would u know?
Can you say owned.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
exactly dont ask me.
I am glad that i can count on one of my fellow 7thgeners. There are plenty of ppl on this site willing to help, except that you act cool cuz u think you are better than everyone else and make others out to look like idiots.

Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
if u took notice to the rod.. its THREADED and adjustable-

wait maybe i just made this up
I know it is adjustable, but i am not about to tell a n00b to take start playing with his actuator and in the attempt him messing up his car.


Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
here dude- learn something
i find that funny considering you were one who couldn't figure out to siphon out the old gas and put in 93 octane in when you were getting your motor swapped. You had to start a thread about it and had to have someone tell you to do that.

Don't always assume someone is a idiot. Me and my father have a excavating business and it is a shame, but the machines and trucks break, so guess who gets to fix them. I have rebuilt motors, transmissions, rears and undercarriages on the machines and dumptrucks. So don't always assume that you know more than anybody else.

BTW, i can't wait to see your response to this, b/c it is gonna be another smart *** comment just like you always have.
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Ahem....

Let's not fight, kids.....

So, I can adjust the wastegate rod to zero, but then will I be able to call up boost to say about 7 psi with my boost controller?
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i am not about to tell a n00b to take start playing with his actuator and in the attempt him messing up his car.
...caught in the crossfire, I was dubbed the "n00b". .
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Can we stick to the topic at hand and help the guy..........
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Originally posted by ThsUserNmIsDumb
Ahem....

Let's not fight, kids.....

So, I can adjust the wastegate rod to zero, but then will I be able to call up boost to say about 7 psi with my boost controller?
If you try that you will be the first. I dont know if you could get 7psi diff with just a bleeder valve if the actuator is set to 0psi. My 2 stage TurboXS MBC was only good for a 3psi diff. that is why I run a fishtank bleeder valve. Stock is set to 8psi, one valve opened it is at 10 psi and second valve opened is (blown headgasket) 12psi.

Good luck. Either way, you will be the first to try this.
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I've set mine to 3psi before (internal gate) so it probably can be done.

It'd be smart to run low boost such as 3 psi so you don't mess the turbo and wastegate itself up... Although osoboosted is right, taking the rod off will result in 0 psi and some MAJOR bogging...

3psi would be fine on your motor. A staged boosted controller will work ok with 3psi as a start point. Set the boost controller to "0" or off, and you will run 3psi as if the wastegate alone was running. Then you can adjust boost from there via EBC, or staged MBC.
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I would just suggest running it on the lowest pissble setting that you can. I really doubt 3-4 PSI will hurt your engine at all. After all you're only gaining around 20-30 HP@ low boost, so I wouldn't worry to much.
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thanks.
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So I should be able to adjust my boost from a range of 3-4psi to 7psi? How quickly does a turbo respond to an EBC adjustment? Wow, I feel so noob'd out.
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Originally posted by ThsUserNmIsDumb
So I should be able to adjust my boost from a range of 3-4psi to 7psi? How quickly does a turbo respond to an EBC adjustment? Wow, I feel so noob'd out.
For 3-7 psi adjustment just buy a bleeder valve. Like in fishtank airpump valve, does the same thing. Get a brass one for saltwater. The plastic might break. The $300 you saved by not buying an EBC you can send to me.
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But I wanna be able to call upon more pounds while driving.
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I have a turboxs dual stage I can sell you. Its a MBC with a switch. It would be good for what you are trying to do. I wanted a 5psi to 11psi switch. The turbo xs was only good for 3-4psi diff.
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I'm sorry, but I don't even have turbo yet.... I'm just planning what to do with my money before I do anything. However, if I still need it when the time comes around, you will be sought after.
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From what you have posted, you real query is how much harder on an engine to have a turbo.

If your car is tuned properly, have enough fuel, and avoid detonation, then the turbo will not weaken the motor.

The real stress is when something is not correct, like fuel amounts and timing. If you have your car tuned, then the engine is only working harder when you are under boost. Relaxed, mellow driving does not put extra strain. If you have an electronic boost controller, you can easily lower the boost to gently cruise around.
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hmm this info is good to know....i want to eventually get a turbo, but it seems ive got lots of reading to do! I dont drive around the streets like a maniac, but once in a while id love to rip it up...anyways...so with a 2 stage boost controller you can set two levels of boost right? So the first stage could be 3-4 psi, and the second stage like 7-8? Is the second stage triggered by WOT? Thanks guys...i dont know **** about turbo.
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Originally posted by rickinthescv
From what you have posted, you real query is how much harder on an engine to have a turbo.

If your car is tuned properly, have enough fuel, and avoid detonation, then the turbo will not weaken the motor.

The real stress is when something is not correct, like fuel amounts and timing. If you have your car tuned, then the engine is only working harder when you are under boost. Relaxed, mellow driving does not put extra strain. If you have an electronic boost controller, you can easily lower the boost to gently cruise around.

That's exactly what I'm talking about with the hard driving vs. relaxed cruising... I wanna be able to switch between 3-4 psi and 7 psi. And what do you mean by fuel amounts? Just don't let the car run low on gas??
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