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n e one actually blown 7gen motor on zex or other nitrous kit?

i was planning a zex wet kit and searched if any one has actually blown their engines from nitrous use here. and not the "i had a friend whos nitrous blew his car up" sorta thing. from what ive read everyone here that has it seems to be pleased with it. i think it was spdrcrchic or something said she did a 14.7 w it and still was happy with it...


so has n e body blown their engine?
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there was one member here that was swapping in a k20 and went out and gave the d17 a 150 shot. The motor was fine but the tranny took a ****.

Just curious to what size jet u gonna run.........if u are gonna run a small jet then go with a dry kit, it is safer for our cars. If u are gonna run a larger shot, then the wet kit is the way to go.
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uhh... from my understanding we cannot run a dry kit because of the returnless fuel system... correct? and prolly just the 50 or 55(lowest setting) because i am paranoid about my engine, and i cant take the bus to work.... so the ? still stands....
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Yes. You can run a dry kit. The fuel system doesn't mean sh*t. If you were running a wet kit, the extra fuel in the mixture would be provided by the kit itself and not your car anyway.

A dry kit is safe for upto a 50 shot. But I wouldn't recommend a basic dry kit. I'd recommend the venom dry kit with an upgraded FP and a VAFC.

I did run a 14.7 on a dry kit, dry 50 shot. But I switched to wet thereafter merely because i wanted more n2o.

You're prolly better off in the long run getting a wet kit, but YES you can run a dry kit. Like I said...I wouldn't recommend more than a 50 shot without fuel upgrades.
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oh yeah, and no i've never heard of anyone blowing up on n2o yet...but chances are the dumbasses that have blown up are prolly not postin' bout it for fear of flam-age. LoL
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This guy suffered from a "nitrous backfire" (n20 igniting in the manifold).



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This guy suffered from a "nitrous backfire" (n20 igniting in the manifold).
Man...he was prolly just a RiceBuRNeR!!!!!























































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hmm spdrcrchic what is your setup now? and is there any small pointers u can give, like small or annoying probs that u have learned along the way... i want to have everything i need to do it properly the first time around so i dont have to make the same mistakes as others....know what i mean? i plan on getting a kit this month... what type of spark plugs do u use as well? -thanks!
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Originally posted by cdub604
hmm spdrcrchic what is your setup now? and is there any small pointers u can give, like small or annoying probs that u have learned along the way... i want to have everything i need to do it properly the first time around so i dont have to make the same mistakes as others....know what i mean? i plan on getting a kit this month... what type of spark plugs do u use as well? -thanks!
I don't have the n2o in my car anymore. But my last setup was an NX kit w/purge and bottle warmer, and WOT microswitch....on a 75 shot. Never gave me any indication of leaning out. However when I dynoed the car (185WHP and 208wtq), it indicated that a little tuning (via an AFC) would have provided for a healthier curve and probably more gain. So basically.....dyno your car, and tune it if you have a chance.

If you've got a bottle warmer....great. Nothin like havin that pressure up to par when you're about to race. BUT.....watch your pressure. Most of the bottle warmers i've encountered (NX or NOS) seem to have a problem with the relay that is supposed to shut off the bottle warmer when the pressure gets too high. We removed the relay on both of the bottle warmers and just made the str8 connection to the bottle warmer switch. So i'd highly recommend an in cabin n2o gauge....and a watchful eye!!!

Because sometimes the pressure can get to high...and because sometimes it's not good to let the n2o sit in the lines too long....I'd recommend a purge kit. The white plume is indicative of a healthy standing before you spray. But you dont have to wire it so u can see the white plume. Usually a small purge should be fine for all systems go. I'd prolly also recommend that you route your purge to cool the solenoid!!!

I used NGK Coppers. I have the part number somewhere and if you want me to look for it for you, then send me a PM. They were 1 step colder I believe. Their very inexpensive, which is great when it comes to replacement. I've heard...and have practiced that you should change the plugs after every certain amount of time. I don't know if this is completely true or not, but I changed mine a couple times just in case while I was on the n2o and each time I did, it was an opportunity to check the plugs and see if things were running ok. I also remember being told that platinums weren't the best recommended ones for n2o.


Besides that.....just make sure you wire everything in carefully, neatly, and correctly. I can assure you that most of the B.S. problems people encounter w/n2o are electrical. I personally never had any issues w/it because when we installed the kit i was very picky about how the wiring was done.......and basically....we ended up sodering (sp?) all of the connections when possible. Make sure...you're wiring is neat too. In case you ever have to trouble shoot, you wont have to deal with tracing stuff back through a "nest" of wires. LoL
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ive had a zex nitrous kit in my car for a year now, only have ran 5 bottles, havent blown up lol
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not to be a noob, but whats it like to hit the nitrous button when ur driving? like is it a full rush or something or do u just jet forward or does the car jerk forward? whats it like to have it? cuz i never had it and im pondering getting it because its cheaper then a turbo kit. thanx, dont flame, lol
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Well once you activate the switch, and you hit WOT (most n2o kits are hooked up this way), you will notice a difference in how hard your car pulls. It's not like the F&F though. LoL

If you've ever floored your car w/out the n2o.....and then u do it with the n2o...you'll notice a considerable difference.
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Originally posted by SpdRcrChk
Well once you activate the switch, and you hit WOT (most n2o kits are hooked up this way), you will notice a difference in how hard your car pulls. It's not like the F&F though. LoL

If you've ever floored your car w/out the n2o.....and then u do it with the n2o...you'll notice a considerable difference.
sweetheart.. i hate to break this to u , so late in the game... BUT... if ur at WOT.... u can just flip the switch then and ull feel the nos turn on.

u might feel alil something.. like as if v-tec engaged.. but nothing major.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
sweetheart.. i hate to break this to u , so late in the game... BUT... if ur at WOT.... u can just flip the switch then and ull feel the nos turn on.

u might feel alil something.. like as if v-tec engaged.. but nothing major.
u better put on ur flame suit, cuz i think it's about to get hot in hurrr
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
sweetheart.. i hate to break this to u , so late in the game... BUT... if ur at WOT.... u can just flip the switch then and ull feel the nos turn on.
Hhaha..this guy thinks he's funny.

NO SH*T SHERLOCK

Awwww.....Did you figure that out all by yourself?

PUH-LEASE...you're gonna come tell ME that I don't know that sh*t when I personally HAD a nitrous kit (2 of them to be exact), and when I'm one of the few people here that actually knows what they're talking about.

i hate to break this to you.......but maybe you shouldn't go round assuming stuff k?

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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
sweetheart.. i hate to break this to u , so late in the game... BUT... if ur at WOT.... u can just flip the switch then and ull feel the nos turn on.

u might feel alil something.. like as if v-tec engaged.. but nothing major.
Originally posted by SpdRcrChk
Well once you activate the switch, and you hit WOT (most n2o kits are hooked up this way)
Mr. OsOBoosted... you're correct, it can be activated that way but SpdRcrChk never said it couldn't. If you would go back and read what she posted again, you can see what she typed. Her way is the way it's supposed to be done. The activation switch passes the current to the throttle switch which is what decides whether the solenoid is opened or not. And if your way is soooo great, why have a throttle switch at all? Why not just have a button at the reach of your finger?
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Oh and BTW the feeling of vtec on a d-series isn't comparable to n2o unless you're running a wimpy *** shot.
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Originally posted by slicksivik
not to be a noob, but whats it like to hit the nitrous button when ur driving? like is it a full rush or something or do u just jet forward or does the car jerk forward? whats it like to have it? cuz i never had it and im pondering getting it because its cheaper then a turbo kit. thanx, dont flame, lol

well i guess u didnt read this carefully enough then... cause he's asking how it feels when u activate the switch...

by u sayin that most kits are designed to turn on by switchin the switch then going to WOT is untrue... maybe in FL its like that, but im just telling you that its not like that everywhere and that its more common to use it via the switch WHILE at WOT to conserve .

just tellin you how it is...

i didnt need to go into a Know it all NOS battle with you.. your tryin to half inform someone, im filling in the blanks and answers u left out.
DEAL WITH IT. ITS LIFE. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
i dont care if you flame for the next 100 posts about nos. Every thing u say about it , Ill just have to have a more informed, wise *** response. so please continue...
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
well i guess u didnt read this carefully enough then... cause he's asking how it feels when u activate the switch...

by u sayin that most kits are designed to turn on by switchin the switch then going to WOT is untrue... maybe in FL its like that, but im just telling you that its not like that everywhere and that its more common to use it via the switch WHILE at WOT to conserve .

just tellin you how it is...

i didnt need to go into a Know it all NOS battle with you.. your tryin to half inform someone, im filling in the blanks and answers u left out.
DEAL WITH IT. ITS LIFE. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
i dont care if you flame for the next 100 posts about nos. Every thing u say about it , Ill just have to have a more informed, wise *** response. so please continue...
The only reason for flicking the activation switch while already at WOT is when coming out of the hole. This is done so not to lose traction down low. But if you're going to be doing this, then why not boost? It's best for top end. If you're coming out of the hole or low first gear on street tires or dynoing, then yes, your method is fine. Other than that, it's silly. You can come back with all sorts of wise *** replies you want but judging by the looks of your car, you don't seem to be a big racer. When you get into real racing, then i'll take your word for it.

And if you really think that nitrous systems weren't designed to flick the activation switch before the throttle switch, then why is the activation switch wired in the power line before the throttle switch? Or, if you'd like to look at the computer controlled systems such as the venom kit, you are required to turn on the activation switch before you spray. It has to go through it's diagnostic and then tell you when it's ready. Then you spray by going WOT. It's just the way it is.

This forum is full of too many people that THINK they know what they're talking about when in reallity, only about 5-10 percent do.

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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
your tryin to half inform someone, im filling in the blanks and answers u left out.
DEAL WITH IT. ITS LIFE. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
i dont care if you flame for the next 100 posts about nos. Every thing u say about it , Ill just have to have a more informed, wise *** response. so please continue...
LoL Half inform someone? He didn't ask... "how does n2o work" he asked what it felt like.

You just felt like nitpicking a comment, assuming that I wasn't aware of how n2o works.....to try and make yourself look "cool-er".

Freedom of speech indeed. You keep acting like f*cktard, and I'll just keep being right.

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I am currently using NGK-BKR7E's (2 step colder). They were highly recommended to me by two people that I know who have years of experience using nitrous systems in imports. The NX kit installation instructions also recommend 2 step colder plugs. Although the step 1's are probably safe for the most part, I wouldnt use them simply because its not worth the risk IMO. Oh yeah and btw, the installation instructions also state to NEVER use any platinum plugs.



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