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Old Feb 26, 2004
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you guys need to check them out.....i have been talkin to him about what they can do for a D17.....they dont have anything on there site, but he told me that if people were really interested, he would put some stuff up....i noticed them on www.honda-tech.com and IM'ed him and he answered all my ?'s right away, and even called several places to find out about parts and custom pistons....they offer full built race blocks and pnp heads...cores must be provided, but they do it all....why dont you guys check them out...i am
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yeah, i've been reading about them too.....seems like a good place to get engine work done.

They claim 35-40 whp on a their SOHC, stage II built head with just bolt-on's
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yeah, i've been reading about them too.....seems like a good place to get engine work done.

They claim 35-40 whp on a their SOHC, stage II built head with just bolt-on's
RS Machines yummy......
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We have been researching more and more parts that are needed for the D17 and as many of you know, there isnt much as far as engine building choices. What we are planning to do is design a custom D17 turbo piston for the people interested in a bottom end build up.
we can do stock bore size with a low compression such as 9:1 to 9.5:1 or if you want something higher, a 10:1 style piston.

If some of you want to take the next step, we can do the sleeving service as well.

Here's how a sleeved block looks like.

As far as Rods, there is 1 company that has the d17 rods available now, but pretty pricey. I was hoping Eagle Rods would have them already, but not yet available. If someone tells you that they are available for the D17, they are BSing

Let us know any comments or thoughts regarding what you Performance minded D17 fans think. As far as many of the manufacturers know, the D17 isnt a popular powerplant to upgrade. But with your help, we can have parts available and designed to what we want.

Our advice is to not jump in and get everypart that comes out on the market for the D17 motor. Do some research and see if it really works. Plan out what you want to do and see if all the parts you are getting are really worth it. We want to make the D17 a good platform that won't break your bank. We'll develop the parts needed that will make your money worth while.

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cool. Nice work. Can't wait to see what comes of this.
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If someone tells you that they are available for the D17, they are BSing
hmmm so why do i have this, if ur saying no one makes them off the shelf, then maybe so, but as far as getting some well this explains it
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Originally posted by C2i0v0i1C
hmmm so why do i have this, if ur saying no one makes them off the shelf, then maybe so, but as far as getting some well this explains it
Read his post again man he said there IS one company that makes them.
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coo...lookin forward to a update on this too
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yup that is the ONE company that makes them.
sorry for the confusion, what I meant was, there are no off the shelf D17 rods from Eagle yet.

and how much did you get your Crowers?

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I have been reading about Exospeed on www.honda-tech.com and i would trust them with my engine no questions asked.

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What can you do for those of us going for a FI setup? IM very interested in what you have to offer.
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i have been talking to exospeed a lot here the past couple of days....he really wants to help us out on here.....i am going to be sending him a block in the very near future....we will see how it turns out
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where are they located?
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Originally posted by chocobo15_2000
where are they located?
Exospeed Performance Group
Valencia, CA 91385
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At this time, I can see the benefits of a built block is mostly going to be for the Turbo setups. we can sleeve the block and reinforce it to handle lots of boost.

We can do higher compression setups, but it will be limited to the output of a camshaft for this motor.
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650 or so, its been a year since i bout them, by saying pricy i thought u meant like titanium rods or something real special
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ya at $650 for just Crowers, I feel that is pricey. Crowers are good but I dont rank them that much higher than Eagles for being that much money.

for a couple hundred more you can already get some aluminum rods
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Wasn't there a problem with eagle rods over on the HT forums? Or was it just the bolts? I remember reading somewhere that there was stretch, which caused failure.....
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It was jus the bolts.
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It was jus the bolts.
I see - said the blind man to the deaf guy....
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I cant even spell right today. rofl
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Eagles are good rods for the price and at low HP. The only time we suggest upgrading the rods are when the setups are at about 500+HP. we usually go with Manley, Pauter or Cunningham.

the rod bolts stretching happens often on stock rod bolts. The ARP bolts used in the Eagle rods are the same ones used in many of the other rods out there. As a matter of fact Almost every single Rod manufacturer uses ARP rod bolts.
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Originally posted by ExospeedRacing
At this time, I can see the benefits of a built block is mostly going to be for the Turbo setups. we can sleeve the block and reinforce it to handle lots of boost.

We can do higher compression setups, but it will be limited to the output of a camshaft for this motor.
But with a a built, new camshaft there would be good output, no?
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Yes if there is a proven grind or billet cam for the D17, there is a good possibility of gainign some naturally aspirated power.
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We are using some pauter rods in our F23 that is expected to make close to 700 hp. Its still a street car, but just barely. The rods were extremely high quality. both the owner and i were very pleased with the result.

Your located in valencia? Thats only about 40 miles from here. Maybe i can cruise down there one of these days.

Do you have a 01+ civic that would like to go to our dyno meet in Bakersfield on the 13th of this month? We are holding a Celica meet on the 12th then the civic meet on the 13th at Le-Toy motorsports in Bakersfield. Just thought you might be interested. PM me if you need any info or want to meet us.
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We'll be at the NHRA race that weekend, Mike. We are at every single West Coast racing event. Do you guys attend these races? If so, the next one will be the NHRA on the 13/14th and then the IDRC race in LACR 27/28th of March. See you there, look for us... we usually have a booth setup with RS Machines and our Cars.

Pauter rods are great rods. We recommend Pauter or Manleys for High HP build ups. Just a bit more money than the Eagles though. but at that HP, we suggest higher end rods anyways.
Be sure to check out one of the street cars we sponsor which should be in the next DSPort mag. Its a b18c 81.5mm bore full street car doing 690hp. Thats an example of a great basic build up.

heres a pic of us at the Season Opener IDRC race in Arizona. would you believe this stock looking H/B does 10.3 @140mph

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i will be sending exospeed my other motor in about 2 weeks....we will see what they can do for the d17
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A billet cam or cam regrind would be great. How about getting Bisi to design a header for us imp:
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This is all so very tempting. I may have to buy one of these engine/tranny combo's that are always for sale on here, and send out the parts from that engine to be modified so I can keep my car to drive everyday, lol.

Exo, in your opinion, how hard would it be to make a billet DOHC head for the D17? I know one of the people over on the Starion forums had some made for their cars.

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OF course a billet cam would be a great thing to be developed for the D17 motor. Here's my take on developing a D17 camshaft.

From a racer's standpoint, a billet cam would be a good choice if willing to pay for the price.

From a business person's standpoint, its not cheap to manufacture a custom billet camshaft for the d17 but would be a good thing to sell since there really isnt a choice for camshafts for the d17.

From a tuner/designer's viewpoint, it would take quite a bit of time and money to actually develop something for the D17 that will work perfectly for the General public.

Let's say we had the time and funds to do the full R&D of developing a camshaft, being a small company and not having thousands of dollars to waste, another company can easily copy our camshaft design and our return on investment will be minimal. Thats my reason to not design for a Billet camshaft. We are planning to possibly do grinds for the D17 but give us some time to see what we can do with the D17 cam. Liek I said in other posts, we have several D17 cores and will start R&D on some grinds soon.

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