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Old Nov 26, 2003
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Originally posted by Catalyst
pman, actually i am getting a bodykit. My sponsor is getting me the BCII front with some diff sides and rear

sounds gooood! are you gonna turn it into a show car or just make it look really, really nice in the SF booth's?
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Old Nov 26, 2003
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If thats going to be your stage 2 kit, I'm all over that!!!

When are you guys going to start working in pistons and rods? Just wondering.
I talked to Josh at DH and from what he told me, they use arias pistons. Alot of time and precision goes into making pistons, it's not the same as machining an exhaust manifold.
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It is going to be a very fast, very purdy daily driven car
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How many lbs is the stage II run at?
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It all depends on what you have done to your engine. If it is stock, i wouldnt go past 8-9 psi. But if it is built, it has the capability to make 450 whp.
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I don't understand, I thought alcohol injection was designed to increase octaine so you could boost higher. Were you running 11lbs at one point? And if not, what are you running now.

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It all depends on what you have done to your engine. If it is stock, i wouldnt go past 8-9 psi. But if it is built, it has the capability to make 450 whp.
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Originally posted by Diemos
I don't understand, I thought alcohol injection was designed to increase octaine so you could boost higher. Were you running 11lbs at one point? And if not, what are you running now.
You have to understand that your internals can only handle so much force. Alcohol injection helps with detonation but eventually your ringlans and rods are going to give under enough stress.
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Catalyst- hey how much will mileage affect our cars if we put one of your turbo setups into our cars with around 100k miles on em?? Just wondering down the road, cause with that many miles I might be able to afford one???
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Originally posted by Catalyst
It is going to be a very fast, very purdy daily driven car
Sounds like my type of car!
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You have to remember, with this kit, you are making more power with less boost than the other kits. So 9 psi on this kit is more like running about 15 or more psi on the base kit.

The alcohol just prevents detonation, it doesnt make the engine any stronger.

I am currently sitting at 8 psi right now, and i can take out brand new C5 corvettes. In fact, i took one out last night.


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The engine should last longer than the time you have your car. If you take care of it, the longevity should still remain close to the same.
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Old Nov 27, 2003
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VIDEOS!!!!! Where are the damn videos???? Props on the car man. Once again SF has outdone themselves. I would have gone with the kit if I didn't decide to get the WRX. Living in NH, AWD just seemed more pleasing.
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Old Nov 29, 2003
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as soon as he is using a DSL connection he will upload them he said.
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Heh, no I already understood that. I know that properly designed engines with upgraded components can handle upwards of 20++ boost. You can run 11lbs without alcohol injection but your going to get knocking. My question was did it increase octane to a point where you can move the boost up without having to worry about any negative consequences. Which was answered. Thnx Catalyst.


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You have to understand that your internals can only handle so much force. Alcohol injection helps with detonation but eventually your ringlans and rods are going to give under enough stress.

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it just get better and better with SF's development. props man!!
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i cant wait!! im callin tom and ordering my kit!!! one question though, i thought sf already had an upgraded turbo? whats the diff between the upgraded one now and the stage 2 turbo?
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the upgraded turbo is just a different turbo. All the same pipes, manifold, etc. The Stage II kit is all the different piping, comes with equal length manifold, intake manifold, turbo, etc.
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wait a minute... i just ordered the original kit with alcohol injection and tranny cooler... how much more is the stage 2 kit to what i paid ???
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wait a minute... i just ordered the original kit with alcohol injection and tranny cooler... how much more is the stage 2 kit to what i paid ???
Read the whole thread, they don't exactly know yet, but they are thinking around 5 g's.
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Read the whole thread, they don't exactly know yet, but they are thinking around 5 g's.
was at work so really didnt have enough time to read the whole thread.
but thanks for answering my queston for me
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im ordering the stage one kit cause i cant wait anymore but what will be the diff for the stage 2? the upgraded turbo is the same as the stage 2? and i also thought that u were selling the upgraded equal length manifold..? besides the pnp and bigger intercooler, anything else diff from stage 1 to stage 2
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The piping is different. The turbo is a completely different turbo. It is a custom combonation that we have made that actually is better than our upgraded one. It should be able to handle 450 whp without straining the bearings.

The other differences are the manifold, alcohol injection, downpipe, intake manifold, and some other small changes
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Damn. Ya'll just keep adding more stuff to the needed list for my car. Well another year of saving to come.
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So.. wait.. how do we get an intercooler that had pipes comming out of both sides? Is that just for stage 2 or can we get it for stage 1 also?
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when can we see some dyno numbers?
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they both look great. you did a sweet job
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So.. wait.. how do we get an intercooler that had pipes comming out of both sides? Is that just for stage 2 or can we get it for stage 1 also?
The IC with the Inlet and Outlet on the same side is the Stage I kit the IC with them on opposite sides in the Stage II kit.
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what the hell can i do to get this....
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I may have track times this friday. But with how busy we have been trying to get all the kits out, i cannot guarentee anything.
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hey cat how about putting that bad boy on a dyno
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