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Old Nov 10, 2003
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Greddy e-manage

I am going to purchase this, and i was wondering if when i get this and the harness' if i can tune it with my laptop or is it necessary to get the E-01? How hard is it too tune this? Can i do it myself?
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also where can i get the software and communication cable?
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the emanage put a hole in my friends block in his evo. But, if you know what you are doing right, you can use this product for the best possibel use. It is nice and user friendly due to its american creation and is easier to use than the SAFC. It is up to you, pick what suits your needs. Both are great sources for tuning. It is tunable I believe with a laptop, that is what my friend did.
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what did he do to blow a hole in his block, what would you recommend as a fuel upgrade?
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Originally posted by bublik
the emanage put a hole in my friends block in his evo. But, if you know what you are doing right, you can use this product for the best possibel use. It is nice and user friendly due to its american creation and is easier to use than the SAFC. It is up to you, pick what suits your needs. Both are great sources for tuning. It is tunable I believe with a laptop, that is what my friend did.
It isn't very user friendly, and it wasn't created in america. Oh and, explain how the emanage put a hole in your friends block? I've heard of the early emanage firmwares burning coilpacks on the evo...but never something like this. Sounds more like your friend was covering his butt for serious screw up.
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Me and C2i0v0i1c both use the emanage on a returnless fuel setup.

You can tune it with a laptop if you have the communication cable and software (specially made from GReddy) Get it from www.mohdparts.com

If you have a wideband O2 monitor you can tune it yourself, otherwise you are limited in what you can tune alone for accuracy and safety.

IM me (Boosted2k2 on AIM) for any other questions... it's easier.
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It isn't very user friendly, and it wasn't created in america. Oh and, explain how the emanage put a hole in your friends block? I've heard of the early emanage firmwares burning coilpacks on the evo...but never something like this. Sounds more like your friend was covering his butt for serious screw up.
I disagree... I think the emanage is very user friendly. Not too many people know how to tune with it which is a shame.
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Ya i pondered for abit and decided that my statement was wrong. It is easier to tune then most fuel comps. I guess i was more refering to the fact that you need more equipment then just the control unit for it to be really of any use. E-01 and laptop.
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Ok, since i just typed out a page and the thing went to "page not found". I basically corrected myself by saying that the emanage was probably created first in the english language. Second, to make a long story short. My buddy was boosting 22 psi and had the emanage with the fuel program. Blew out a coil as he said and the emanage didnt send fuel or right ignition timing to the motor. Knocked like crazy and fried the pistons, broke rods, and put a quarter size hole into side of block along cylinder wall. Head was severly damaged. When the shop took out the pistons, they were the size (top head) of a silver dollar. They were char black and had really fried from crazy heat. He got a new motor with race cams and still uses the emanage. I guess it was some faulty install or something.
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what would be the advantage is the e-manage versus the vafc, or safc? some1 wanna sum up the uses for this e-manage real quick for a noob? ^_^ Oh, and would this be useful for non-turbo applications? would it be useful for the stock fuel system? or would a returnless system be more effective?
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returnless would be more effective i guess i dont know how it works without a turbo, it overrides the stock computer as far as fuel is concerned, the advantages of emanage ove vafc safc, both do the same thing as far as fuel is concernd just the vafc allows for vtec controll, emanage can do both those, control ur timing, ur map sensor voltage, and i think there are some others, boosted2k2......
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^^I think you meant return is more effective. I think even SF's setup mocks a return system to an extent.

Emanage can do a bunch of things:

VTEC engagement
Airflow volume adjustment
Injector duty cycling
Boost Limiter Cut - Hides boost from the ECU
Anti Engine Stall - Stops engines from running rich when shifting
Ignition Timing
DataLogging up to 3 hours
Automatically changes fuel for larger injectors
Control Additional Injectors

Just a quote about the Emanage VS SAFC written by some guy on the internet (drives a Supra):

"The closest competition to the E-manage is the Apexi Super-AFC. The
Super-AFC is a very nice and powerful unit, and they both have their
advantages and disadvantages. The E-manage is far more capable, but
does require a laptop (or the E-01 boost controller) to program. The
Super-AFC is simpler, but is self-contained – you program it right on
the unit's display. The Super-AFC doesn't handle larger injectors as
easily as the E-manage, doesn't control additional injectors, doesn't
do ignition timing, and doesn't have datalogging (though it does do
some MAP tracing on the screen, but they can't be saved and are tricky
to interpret). It's still a great computer, though. The E-manage is
really the next step up."
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Nicley put.
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Originally posted by Boosted2k2
^^I think you meant return is more effective. I think even SF's setup mocks a return system to an extent.
yea thats what i meant,

accel DFI is pretty close competition to emanage, and then there is soemthing that HKS makes that uses a cable of some sort, im not sure but its supposed to be good too, ive heard that these two things are in close competition with emanage
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anyone know if the e-01 handles vtec engagement?
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NO, u have to have the blue emanage box to do that, the e-01 is a boost controller
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thnx for clearin things up for me guys...i'll hold off on that...still not turbo'ed yet. ^_^
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Would the emanage help NA cars?
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i would assume so, u can adjust the fuel, timing and vtec
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for those of u who know about the MAP CEL i had, we figured it out, the emanage has a boost cut limiter, well that obviously works for example on boosted2k2 car, why bc he doesnt have a missing link, well as far as my car as concerned i have a missing link and i was using the boost cut, turned the boost cut off in the emanage and waaaalaaa, no more MAP code
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I actually don't get any CEL using the boost cut or not. I dunno why. I've brought the voltage as high as around 4V (8-9psi). I use the boost cut now just to try it out. It makes the transition to boost more smooth. I think I posted this somewhere before... but the ECU has trouble between 3.0-3.3V (going to boost), but after that, it's fine. I have the boost limiter cut set to 2.95V.

I don't understand why you would have gotten a CEL from the MAP. The wrong setting for the airflow sensor can cause that... and the car would still run fine. I've used a bunch of settings. There are 2 airflow settings that will let the car run right... but only 1 of them allows you to adjust the MAP. And you can't tell unless you use the datalog.
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ive got 30 or so maps
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what exactly would i need for my car? the emanage main unit, i have a laptop, some cable? bah im lost... would a tuning place already have that cable??
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what exactly would i need for my car? the emanage main unit, i have a laptop, some cable? bah im lost... would a tuning place already have that cable??
Aside from the main unit, you need the injector and ignition harness if you want to tune them. Some shops have the comm cable. If they are a Greddy dealer, than they probably have it. That's all you need.
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so main unit, injector unit, ignition unit, and comm cable, right? thanks boosted. get on aim more, its easier to talk!!
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lol. I'll be on AIM for the next few minutes if you want to catch me. Boosted2k2
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