Retard your ignition timing with this!
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Retard your ignition timing with this!
Don't know how many people have seen this. If you plan on running higher boost, look into retarding your ignition. Apexi Electronics has a universal application. Decent price too.
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or u could get something that does all the fuel, all the igniton, all the vtec, and much more i think, all in one, emanage, for the same price as 2 of these, ITC, VAFC, or SAFC combined
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Rep Power: 584 i dont know how or who fixed it but a greddy dealer told my shop that it will work, my car is going back to the shop to have a new ecu put in and to see about getting the ignition from the emanage working
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Rep Power: 326 lemme know if the e-manage got taken care of on your ignition system, that would be awesome, i will eventually need a fuel system too
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Rep Power: 584 i have a lx ecu on a ex engine. lx for one doesnt control vtec, and the lx has a lower fuel cut off, round 115, and u cant go past that. i would prefer no fuel cut off but the ex ecu has like a 125 cut off which is better.
it will be a couple of weeks before i know how well the emanage ignition works.
it will be a couple of weeks before i know how well the emanage ignition works.
Originally posted by C2i0v0i1c
i have a lx ecu on a ex engine. lx for one doesnt control vtec, and the lx has a lower fuel cut off, round 115, and u cant go past that. i would prefer no fuel cut off but the ex ecu has like a 125 cut off which is better.
it will be a couple of weeks before i know how well the emanage ignition works.
i have a lx ecu on a ex engine. lx for one doesnt control vtec, and the lx has a lower fuel cut off, round 115, and u cant go past that. i would prefer no fuel cut off but the ex ecu has like a 125 cut off which is better.
it will be a couple of weeks before i know how well the emanage ignition works.
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Rep Power: 0 my02 dx cuts out at 128.... been there a few times.. wish it was like 160... lol.. but im fine with 128.. woint see it again any day soon.. and im only seeing 102 in 1/4 mile.. which is pretty much where i do my racing now... so im fine..LOL
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Rep Power: 326 how am I wrong? They have a REV limiter, which could act as a speed limiter once you hit 142.5 mph. Do the math on our gear ratios. There is nothing to prevent it from topping out, just lack of power.
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Rep Power: 584 ok it might depend on what year u have but by god mine has one bc ive hit it. round 115mph the car just wont go anywhere, and thisis in fourth, that means i still have all of 5th gear to top out.
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Rep Power: 326 the rev limiter engages as 7020rpms (i have a digital tach with peak hold capability). there is zero speed lilimiting, the ecu only prevents the engine from reving past that point
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Rep Power: 584 ive hit 7004 on the lx ecu are u sure the ex isnt higher, dont all the other generations the vtec motors rev higher than the novtec ones. i was hoping the ex ecu would have a higher rev limiter, my boost controller holds the highest stats attained so thats how i know i got to 7004
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Rep Power: 326 swear to god man. if you look even at the redline on the stock ex tach, it's 6800, same as the non-vtec, but the rev limiter kicks at 7020. I race at the track a lot and have hit the rev limiter god knows how many times, i've never passes 7020, that's the peak since i've hooked the thing up.
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Back on topic lol....
I doubt you can use that thing on any of the new Honda engines. That's the problem. MSD universal apps don't work, so I doubt this would. I already posted that GReddy said that the new software update on the E-manage (v0.36) controls the new Honda ignition and has been working on all of the K series engines (same ignition). It's the fact that Honda's new ignition requires newer separate technology to control the ignition. GReddy had to make a fix to cater to all the k20's they sell kits for. The E-manage isn't exactly universal though... which I think makes the difference. To use it, it needs to know car manufacturer, airflow sensor type, and ignition type which basically creates a 3 piece code (X-XX)
First Part:
1 - 1 coil (distributor) 3 cyl
2 - 1 coil (distributor) 4 cyl
3 - 2 coil (wasted spark) 4 cyl
4 - 4 coil (coil on plug) 4 cyl
5 - 1 coil (distributor) 6 cyl
(only seems to be on the Toyota 1G-GTE inline 6)
6 - 3 coil (wasted spark) 6 cyl
7 - 6 coil (coil on plug) 6 cyl
8 - 8 coil (coil on plug) 8 cyl
A - RX-7 13B-REW
B - RX-7 13B or 13BT
C - RX-7 20B-REW
Second Part:
Honda Pressure
8A HN_PR-1
8B HN_PR-2
The code for ours would be 4-8-B. Right from there, the software automatically knows you drive a 4 cylinder Honda/Acura, with a MAP Sensor, and a DIS Single coil pack ignition. The software would then make the necessary changes to be able to control the ignition. Which is why GReddy can make a unit that can control multiple engines and not be universal. So that way if you have 2 different cars that have DIS ignitions, say one Honda and a Toyota, and they don't operate the same (which they don't), the E-manage software is able to distinguish between the two. This is why universal apps won't work.
CLIFF'S NOTES:
-Sorry For Raping thread
-Universal Apps can only work if all DIS Ignitions are identical in every car
-Honda's DIS ignition is different from any other DIS
-GReddy E-manage has the ability to tell the difference
-GReddy released software 2 weeks ago to fix it
I doubt you can use that thing on any of the new Honda engines. That's the problem. MSD universal apps don't work, so I doubt this would. I already posted that GReddy said that the new software update on the E-manage (v0.36) controls the new Honda ignition and has been working on all of the K series engines (same ignition). It's the fact that Honda's new ignition requires newer separate technology to control the ignition. GReddy had to make a fix to cater to all the k20's they sell kits for. The E-manage isn't exactly universal though... which I think makes the difference. To use it, it needs to know car manufacturer, airflow sensor type, and ignition type which basically creates a 3 piece code (X-XX)
First Part:
1 - 1 coil (distributor) 3 cyl
2 - 1 coil (distributor) 4 cyl
3 - 2 coil (wasted spark) 4 cyl
4 - 4 coil (coil on plug) 4 cyl
5 - 1 coil (distributor) 6 cyl
(only seems to be on the Toyota 1G-GTE inline 6)
6 - 3 coil (wasted spark) 6 cyl
7 - 6 coil (coil on plug) 6 cyl
8 - 8 coil (coil on plug) 8 cyl
A - RX-7 13B-REW
B - RX-7 13B or 13BT
C - RX-7 20B-REW
Second Part:
Honda Pressure
8A HN_PR-1
8B HN_PR-2
The code for ours would be 4-8-B. Right from there, the software automatically knows you drive a 4 cylinder Honda/Acura, with a MAP Sensor, and a DIS Single coil pack ignition. The software would then make the necessary changes to be able to control the ignition. Which is why GReddy can make a unit that can control multiple engines and not be universal. So that way if you have 2 different cars that have DIS ignitions, say one Honda and a Toyota, and they don't operate the same (which they don't), the E-manage software is able to distinguish between the two. This is why universal apps won't work.
CLIFF'S NOTES:
-Sorry For Raping thread
-Universal Apps can only work if all DIS Ignitions are identical in every car
-Honda's DIS ignition is different from any other DIS
-GReddy E-manage has the ability to tell the difference
-GReddy released software 2 weeks ago to fix it
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by MadWheel
ok that clears things up... So E-mange with the ignition harness and I'm all set?
ok that clears things up... So E-mange with the ignition harness and I'm all set?
