good engine for a 6th gen?
09-06-2003
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good engine for a 6th gen?
hello, I have a friend who, has a 6th gen civic he wants to do a swap in. I know many of you with 7th gen want this engine http://www.jspecautosports.com/newja...%20K20A-R.html the mothergod, but they dont fit 6th gens. I want tho know if there is a engine just as strong (maybe even stronger) so i can tell him about it. I think this is pretty good
http://www.jspecautosports.com/newja...%20B18C-R.html
is there a better one and does it give the same compatibility that an rsx engine would have? also another question, i i install a jdm engine in my car, will i fail the smog test. yes right??
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http://www.jspecautosports.com/newja...%20B18C-R.html
is there a better one and does it give the same compatibility that an rsx engine would have? also another question, i i install a jdm engine in my car, will i fail the smog test. yes right??
THANKS FOR YOUR THE TIME BABY!!!!
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Rep Power: 0 h22 isn't that great of an engine... it's really not worth the extra time and effort in getting it to fit... just throw a B series motor in there...
b18c1(gsr) or b18c5(type R) will fit like a glove... it's been done over and over again so finding the DIY or finding a shop that'll do it won't be too hard...
b18c1(gsr) or b18c5(type R) will fit like a glove... it's been done over and over again so finding the DIY or finding a shop that'll do it won't be too hard...
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Rep Power: 0 actually there is a hatch i saw somewhere online with a K20A2 motor in it. You would have to make your own mounts though, and that can get really expensive. Since he probably doesnt want to do that...get the B18C5. Nice fit with tons of potential. Or even get a LS block, with a B16A2 head and turbo it.
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my tuner has a built b18c1, sleeved and turbod and nitroused, 549whp , and a 200 shot of that nitrous. 549 with out nitrous
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Rep Power: 0 thnaks for your responses, hes taking everything into consideration. needless to say, hes very confused :/
if he gets the type r though, he will fail smog right?
if he gets the type r though, he will fail smog right?
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Chocobo
its a jdm engine, thye dont have smoke laws.
its a jdm engine, thye dont have smoke laws.
Plus if you get an engine that won't pass just look for a smog shop that'll pass you for a case of beer or some extra charge or even for free. Ask around cuz there's a lot of people out there with JDM engines.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
There are usdm Integra Type R engines. It's B18C5. It'll pass.
Plus if you get an engine that won't pass just look for a smog shop that'll pass you for a case of beer or some extra charge or even for free. Ask around cuz there's a lot of people out there with JDM engines.
There are usdm Integra Type R engines. It's B18C5. It'll pass.
Plus if you get an engine that won't pass just look for a smog shop that'll pass you for a case of beer or some extra charge or even for free. Ask around cuz there's a lot of people out there with JDM engines.
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Rep Power: 0 On serious note, as everyone's just throwing out engines, I have to ask:
What does your friend plan on doing to his engine? If he wants to boost, he should not get the Type R engine. The compression is too high. That engine, and the B18C1 (GS-R) are best tuned more efficiently N/A. The B18B1 out of the RS/LS Integra is the engine to use to give boost due to it low compression ratio.
N/A: B18C5, B18C1
Boost: B18B1/H22A
What does your friend plan on doing to his engine? If he wants to boost, he should not get the Type R engine. The compression is too high. That engine, and the B18C1 (GS-R) are best tuned more efficiently N/A. The B18B1 out of the RS/LS Integra is the engine to use to give boost due to it low compression ratio.
N/A: B18C5, B18C1
Boost: B18B1/H22A
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Chocobo
haha yeah, but the problem is i dont want him to get pulled over and the cop starts taking pics of the engine, or if they are those specially trained cops that know the difference in engines
haha yeah, but the problem is i dont want him to get pulled over and the cop starts taking pics of the engine, or if they are those specially trained cops that know the difference in engines
Well, like I said you don't need to go JDM. JDM ECUs won't allow the engine to go over a certain speed (like 110MPH) due to Japanese regulations.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
I assume he plans to race. Well, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid he should be fine. A cop isn't gonna pull you over and pop your hood for going over the speed limit 5mph you know. If he gets caught racing at the wrong place and they choose to pop hoods, he's screwed anyway.
Well, like I said you don't need to go JDM. JDM ECUs won't allow the engine to go over a certain speed (like 110MPH) due to Japanese regulations.
I assume he plans to race. Well, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid he should be fine. A cop isn't gonna pull you over and pop your hood for going over the speed limit 5mph you know. If he gets caught racing at the wrong place and they choose to pop hoods, he's screwed anyway.
Well, like I said you don't need to go JDM. JDM ECUs won't allow the engine to go over a certain speed (like 110MPH) due to Japanese regulations.
i didnt know that. a speed cap....turbo would work for the engine then right?
btw, thanks for all your help SlammedBlueEM2
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by potator
So what's Jose leaning towards?
So what's Jose leaning towards?
oh well hes a good friend of mine
anyway, i got him interested in cars, now he wants a car that has the same looks of a civic but the speed of an rsx. i told him about turbo and he wants that too. this may be a phase, but i know he wants a swap. so, he wants :
something as fast, just as fast, or faster than the acura rsx and something he can turbo later on. im hearing good things about the h22 because of the displacement. it wont be too hard with the engine mount thing. there long story
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Rep Power: 0 if i was going to go FI then i'd use the H23 motor and use the extra money you saved from not buying the damn H22......the H23 is just as strong and the extra displacement helps with a turbo setup.....once u get in the high horsepower (300+) then vtec doesnt really help out at all...nothing a good motor build wont overcome. if you just want a decent ride thats better than a D-series then drop a B18C1.....not too much money and it'll sure as hell run better than wat u got now so no biggy. ANY honda swap is an easy swap IMHO compared to other things people do out there so really its up to you to decide.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Chocobo
turbo would work for the engine then right?
turbo would work for the engine then right?
The speed of an RSX-S is nothing to really be impressed about. To put it into perspective:
It's a 200HP engine stuffed into a chassis with a curb weight shooting towards 2800lbs.
The Integra GS-R is a 170HP engine into a car that weighs close to 2600lbs.
Both cars run low 15s stock with an average driver. Good drivers can just break low 14s.
This isn't to prove which engine or car is better, this is just to show you that the Type S is not too far from a GS-R stock vs. stock in the 1/4 mile. In a top end race, the S would win. Overall the S has the torque advantage but I still look at is as a GS-R in the 1/4.
It's not really that impressive speed-wise. I hope he wants to go faster than a Type S.
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Rep Power: 0 ok then, hypothecally, what should he get then. he wants something to turbo later on
is there a better engine for the civic than a b-series or a h22/3 im getting confused with all these engines gettin thrown on my head
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is there a better engine for the civic than a b-series or a h22/3 im getting confused with all these engines gettin thrown on my head
thanks
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Rep Power: 302 If he's looking to boost, either a B18C1 or the H22. The C5 is a waste, as said before, for boost - the compression is extremely high. BTW - If you get an engine with a speed limiter, HKS has a product called "speed cut defencer" that would allow you to hit any speed you want.
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Rep Power: 302 BTW - for $3500 you can get an H22, tranny, OBDII ECU on this site...
http://www.ardperformance.com/cgi-bi...l?action=index
http://www.ardperformance.com/cgi-bi...l?action=index
