AznPhoenix

Basic question is either engine swap my 2003 civic ex engine wit the rsx type s engine (may or may not turbo that engine if its not too much) or get a custom turbo or twin turbo for the existing civic engine. Money wise the engine swap would be around 5k-6k and turbos for that engine go for bout 2.5k-3k. It would produce(im guessing) around 320-350 hp. If i do a regular turbo it would produce about 200, but the problem is that there is no turbo kit for the new civic currently, it has to be custom. How much would a custom turbo be for the civic? twin turbo?

sovereign82

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search pls, thx. You have quite a bit of info that is off here.

C2i0v0i1C

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if u twin turbo the civic engine let me know bc last time i checked i dont think it has been done

AznPhoenix

im just looking for experience. cause a twin turbo has to be custom, and maybe doing a engine swap and turboing that engine wit an existing turbo kit might give better performance and maybe even cheaper.

C2i0v0i1C

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if you swap in a RSX T-S and turbo that, that would be the shiz, cybernation can help u out with a kit on that one, as far as twin turbo is concerned heck yea it would have to be custom, personally i dont think it would fit under the hood, second our civic motors can flow enough air to make a twin turbo setup work, it all depends on how much want to spend, $$$ is the key

AznPhoenix

well first of all, will a 2.0 liter engine turboed be able to fit under the hood of a civic?

AznPhoenix

and wat u mean rsx t-s? u mean the k20a2?

opto_isolator

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Ok man - I see you have like 75 posts or something. So you should know how to use the search button or something. But yeah - if you are crazy enough you could do a twin turbo set up (spend LOTS of money in the process I'm sure).

But seriously, a K20 with turbo will cost some bills - like probably $10-13,000 (7k for the swap, another 4k for the cybernation turbo).

Badass setup - but think what kind of a down payment that would make too.....Sti?

C2i0v0i1C

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RSX type-S so whatever engine code that is yea, and yes it will fit in there and unless u get some ungodly huge turbo it will fit, u can do any of the things u have mentioned but just not the twin turbo thing...swap and turbo, just turbo, or just swap

C2i0v0i1C

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STI=ok

2003 civic w/ k20a2 twin turbo=might cost a pretty penny but think about the uniqueness

opto_isolator

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Yeah I know about the uniqueness - but I was also thinking about the resale value. If you turbo your car you're closer to stock than with a K20 - might make back at least a LITTLE more when you sell it vs going with a K20. That's one of my big things, I've been thinking about the resale value. Its just not worth putting a K20 in my vic (to me) since if I ever sell the beast I'll never get nowhere NEAR what I put into it. Little mods such as a strut bar, etc are easy to remove and sell - a K20 isn't.....

AznPhoenix

well im new to engine swapping, is it even legal? If it isnt, is it a risk since probably there r no guarantees of the engines quality. Wat im saying there would be no warranties on them or something. And well another question, how much hp could a turbo and exhaust system wit the required engine mods *required to accomodate the turbo* add in hp and torque wise?

AznPhoenix

I want to go 0-60 in atleast 6.0. How much hp and torque would that require in a vic?

Catalyst

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hahah.... at least 6.0 sec.

That is funny.....

Dude, just turbo the engine you have in the car. I went 13.6 on the stock engine, on my LOW BOOST SETTING. I got kicked off the track before i could turn the boost up, because i didnt have a helmet.

And to correct something you said, there are turbo kits for the 7thgen civics. I know this, because i build them, i sell them, and i install them.

I am suprised you didnt know that there were turbo kits available.

WannaBFast

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well.. if you have LOTS of cash to blow.. you should check out the rsx swap car on hondawerx.com
jdm type r k20a with cybernation stage 2 turbo.... putting out 425whp!!! they think its even higher because the limiter... also i think its doing low 13's

AznPhoenix

ok if there are 7thgen civic turbo kits, can u tell me wat they r and how much they cost? and wats the estimated hp and torque after installation?

ExOrCizT

3 somethin for the kit Caty and SFPower sell...
their very reccomended im gonna get one from them in a year or so... if they still are sellin em

AznPhoenix

caty or sfpower? which is better?

ExOrCizT

They are the same kit... 2 different ppl....

AznPhoenix

link to where i can get it?

ExOrCizT

PM one of them... as they dont have a website

AznPhoenix

is it a company? and u mean pm, do u mean they r users on 7thgencivic.com?

ExOrCizT

Stanford Fabrications

Yes they are users- Catalyst and SFPower

ExOrCizT

here i found the Phone Number 1 661 816 5444

AznPhoenix

how much hp after their turbo does a civic put out? over 200? 230?

ExOrCizT

Dunno but like catylist said hes got a manual LX running at 8 psi.. 13.6 1/4 mile with a broken headgasket?
if u do internals it be faster cuz u could run more boost... Search man, theres alot of info on the SF Turbo in this forum

AznPhoenix

but that turbo is alot better for the price and performance than say doing a engine swap wit a k20a2 and then turboing that.. correct?

ExOrCizT

its alot better for price....
a k20a2 is gonna run u 7 thousand (including install) + another wat...4-6 for a cybernation turbo
Your gonna be faster... with k20a2 but spend the 7 thousand when you can get a good one for 3 somethin and then upgrade some internals and be in the 10's??
i think the k20 runs 15's stock @200 hp... the d17a2 does high 16's.. 17's if i were u id just get the SF kit.. give em a call

AznPhoenix

10s? 15s? 16s? 17s? what r those numbers?

Jaykuai

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those are seconds..

stock RSXS engine does 15s

stock EX engine does 16s/17s

SF EXT engine does 13s