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Old Jul 18, 2003
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need to get more suspension upgrades!
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cool... congrats on the turbo
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:squint: not fair...not fair at all
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awesome, congrats. what's wrong with the suspension issues? you want tein huh lol.
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coo
nice choice of color for the charge pipes
what's the diameter on your intercooler piping?
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derek, have you had your tranny done up yet? how's it holding up?
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not yet, seems ok, but what do i know.
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sweet. cant wait to see dyno
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there is a dyno day next saturday. $35 for 3 pulls. gonna try and get there.
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can't wait to hear about it...what kind of turbo kit?
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Can't wait to see the numbers since you have an auto LX. . . like me .

guamcivic2k1: he has the SF kit.
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Do you get any traction through 1st and 2nd gear?
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umm what injectors are u running and do u have an safc or emangement system or something?
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It's the SF fuel kit that comes with every turbo.
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hey D, you running a tranny cooler?
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Originally posted by mikedarippa
umm what injectors are u running and do u have an safc or emangement system or something?
If I'm not mistaken, the SF kit does not come with extra injectors. It uses the stock ones.
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the SF kit doesnt need bigger injectors, thats why it is soo freakin cool
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ahh now all we need is an auto ex..for some dyno numbers..can u get wheelspin in first..just wondering
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ok....

One of my friends was wondering about the extra injectors as well. Can someone explain why we don't need extra injectors?

I have traction through all gears, but I have an auto. SO I got the lag off the line.

No tranny cooler yet, I have one, just not in yet. GOnna put it in when I get the shift kit done.

I am getting an S-AFC b4 I dyno it. Should be here this week.

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With the SF fuel kit, you dont need extra injectors because it adds more fuel by increasing the fuel pressure. As the pressure rises, the injectors deliver more fuel with the stock pulse width.

If you add bigger injectors with the SF kit, you will need to use an SAFC or something to tune it, because it is made for the stock injectors. but as long as you can use something to tune the pulsewidths, the kit will work awesome with extra injectors.
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Ok - I think I know how the fuel system works now. This WAS the missing piece of the puzzle, but by looking at the setup, it can be seen.

There are 2 senarios here, my guess is #2:

1. Essentially SF has just installed an inline fuel "pump" if you will - something to boost system pressure. The output pressure of the pump is determined by how much voltage is fed to the pump - by the "reference diaphram." The "reference diaphram" monitors boost pressure on the manifold (maybe via the MAP sensor?), and adjusts the output voltage to the new fuel pump accordingly.....

2. Either that - or from what I see on the photo, the fuel essentially bypasses the pump at low boost due to the "reference diaphram," and starts to route through the pump as the boost pressure on the manifold increases. This design would have the pump run at the constant 12V DC, simplier than the previous design.

Essentially they are correct when they say that this kit comes "pretuned," however since this kit was tuned on Catalysts car, I can only imagine that minor tweaking to the fuel device can only help things since every engine that comes off of the line has its own characteristics.

Pretty cool, but I'd still like to see the design of the reference diaphram (I know, snowball's chance in hell, but I can still wish).

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okay u need bigger injectors guy and safc or sooner or later kaboom is whats gonna happen
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rc 440's will be good.....
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if you upgrade injectors, you HAVE TO HAVE an SAFC or something of the sort.

Opto, you are an intelligent person. It is not number 1, and number 2 is somewhat close. Keep thinking, and i bet you may get it.
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Thanks Cat....Heh, not that I am going to even try and make this device, since I'll leave that to someone with prior experience (unless I had an old junker I could play around with, and didn't have anything to worry about)....Just like to tinker, guess its the engineer in me!
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