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if im to get an HX as i plan, i'm probably going to get a nitrous kit. basically all i want to know is what's the max shot that i can do without blowing the thing up? i'm not big on d-series motors, so i really have no clue what im doing

 
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75 shot is pushing it....but 50 would more than enough....

 
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yeah, i was thinking 55shot. anyone running that around here?

 
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Well, in one of our threads we were convincing Detox not to run 100 shot but the person I would recommend talking to would be 75 Shot......There's some other guyz out there too..they'll probably gonna reply to this site....I was planning on running 75 with the Venom VCN 2000 kit but I bought an SF turbo kit instead.....

 
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my actual main concern with getting nitrous is to try to at least keep up w/ my dad's RSX-S

 
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After the NOS wheres off the RSX will continue to beat you.... go Turbo dont be a FF Nos kiddie

 
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im not a FF NAWZZZ "kiddie". im saying with the mods that im thinking of (intake, exhaust, possibly intake manifold, and 55shot) it should be able to keep up pretty good. if you figure a dx/lx is dynoing at around 110at the wheels with an AEM v2, throw on a 55shot, puts you up to about 140-145 at the wheels, thrown an exhaust on there, thats up to max 150whp, the manifold has to add some power, guessing about 5-10, so its about 160max. rsx-s's dyno around 165-170whp, so thinking figuratively it could keep up decently, guessing around the rear bumper at about 100mph. we havent even factored in weight, which the HX has almost a 500lb advantage.

 
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im running a 55 shot, check out the nitrous FAQ for 7thgens in Forced Induction forums

 
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thanks WW. thta helps alot, really it does!

 
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hEY LATENIGHT, I really think you should consider getting a turbo...because the amount of money that you'll be spending for your setup will be much more than a $3500.00 turbo kit...trtust me.....a friend of mine went that way and ended up getting a turbo.....NOS doesn't last too long...RSX's will catch you on the high end.....BTW my dad has a 2003 SI and i'll be smoking his *** in the near future.......thanks to turbo

 
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yeah, but also if i get a turbo kit, i have to upgrade injectors and all that other crap. it costs alot more money to do a turbo setup on a n/a car. plus with nitrous i dont have to worry about all teh **** that comes with a turbo, im very lazy, so all i would do is go fill up the bottle. ove rhere nitrous is about $7 a lb, so if i go with a 20lb bottle, it should last me a while since its big and will be damn expensive. also ill be getting an HX, which i dont think vtec-e would be to friendly or compliant with, and im not gonna go around flooring it. i know its not a racing car, and im buying it for its gas mileage, which a turbo will no doubt decrease. its almost like buying a mustang and getting 20lb injectors on it. the nitrous will be on only when i want it to be, which will be on only when i want it to be, preserving my mileage. plus the work that goes into putting a turbo on and taking it off when it comes time for the warranty to save me, i wont have to worry about it like i will with nitrous, which is a relatively easy on-easy-off system with the Nitrous Oxide System's NOSzle delivery system.

 
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If you get Sf's kit you will not need to replace any of your fuel system.

 
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alright man im trying to contain myself from all ur uninformed posting. so ill start here SEARCH!
read on the sf turbo kit, no extra injectors, and it will work fine on the ex with vtec, vtec-e? difference? if there is one, someone post it. i dont know too much about the kit but from what ive read its a reliable easy to install or have a shop install for u. whoever told u, that u need 20lb injectors on a turboed civic needs to SEARCH! Thats one, there are two more turbo kits on the market for our cars now, the turbo discounters extreme and (supreme, superior?) kit, and max rev has a kit. I believe in the long run nitrous will do more damage to ur car than adding a turbo kit. plus $3000 or less at 60+ hp to the wheels stock(no other mods)versus, intake $200, exhaust $300,header $300, pulleys $300, nitrous system $1000, plus labor for all ur stuff for being lazy$600 or so, now thats $2900, for an extra 60 hp at the wheels, id go with the turbo, more bang for the buck, then after the turbo, exhaust, pulleys, clutch, flywheel, much more power there. Now, SEARCH!
eric

 
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I just read this whole thread, the 7th gen Nitrous thread, & the SF turbo thread!

Dude, I'm getting the Turbo Discounters Set-up! Have'nt decided which. Bit I gotta have it.

Anyone know about spool-up on these models?

 
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vtec-e shuts off one intake valve on each cylinder up to a certain RPM where it no doubt decreases engine output, then a pin is inserted into the other side of the rocker when that RPM is reached, opening that valve back up. there is slight VVT in the high rev range, but not much.


and about the 20lb injector thing: 20lb injectors would no doubt cause severe detonation. its plain stupidity to lean out your engine like that. i said it'd be like buying a MUSTANG and putting 20lb injectors on it


again, i've stated my reasons for nitrous. i may be lazy for some things, but not when it comes to my vehicle. i work at a honda dealer, i can utilize the tools there, and if i cant figure it out, i can buy a pop for a mechanic and they'll do it for me. your prices are wrong too. i can go buy a cheap intake for $50 (really just use the tube), throw on an apexi filter for about $40 along with the bracket, have a custom 2.25" exhaust made with a good muffler for about $200(my friend got his 3" system made for his turbo accord for $330, HUGE gains, very well built), nitrous would run me about $700, a new intake manifold from KMS about $500, i wouldnt go with the header because the HX's is speacially designed for maximum MPG(remember, we're preserving mileage here too, i dont just want to go faster than normal), pulleys would void the warranty(trying to keep that intact, another reason for not boosting it, nitrous would be a cinch to uninstall when the warranty needs to save my ***) and increase engine wear. those mods(55shot nitrous), would easily give me almost 70hp, if not more, at the wheels. im not a moron, i know how to search, now READ. lease:

your neighborhood car genius,
chris

 
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So Latenight......did you buy the car yet?

 
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thats kinda funny because it seemed like when u first posted that u knew nothing aobut our cars or about vehicles for that matter, u sounded completely motor ILLITERATE im sure there were others on here who also were thinking the same thing.
duely noted that u know what u know, the prices i was giving, were from a sellers point of view, thats what most motorsport places around here would charge u. next time at least sound like ur using ur brain instead of posting with illiteracy. it would save all of us alot of trouble

 
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when did a nitrous kit cost $1000, besides venom which is overpriced anyways?