Engine Swap vs. Turbo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 3, 2002
  #1  
JDMCIVIC's Avatar
Thread Starter
JDM WHORE!!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 0
From: LA (SGV), California, US
Rep Power: 301
JDMCIVIC will become famous soon enough
Engine Swap vs. Turbo

Just wonderin but what would you guys choose. A RSX Type-S/Type-R Swap(have to sacrifice ac and etc.) or a Turbo(either custom or HKS or something else)? I personally would choose the turbo, just to hear the sould of the blow-off valve, sweetttttt sound [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] ahahh...lol...
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2002
  #2  
WorldsSlowestEm2's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,525
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, California, US
Rep Power: 317
WorldsSlowestEm2 will become famous soon enough
i personally love the sound of the BOV. Just my opinion
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2002
  #3  
VNlilMAN's Avatar
The Standard One
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,659
Likes: 1
From: City of Angels, California, US
Rep Power: 416
VNlilMAN will become famous soon enoughVNlilMAN will become famous soon enough
engine swap...
turbo theres turbo lag, you have to wait for the turbo to cool down

more maintenence for turbo.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #4  
WorldsSlowestEm2's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,525
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, California, US
Rep Power: 317
WorldsSlowestEm2 will become famous soon enough
true true but i just love that sound, i can care less, you cant do much to make our civics go anyway, might azs well have fun u know. But yah, ifi had the ends, id enjoy either or, a swap would also be nice. Theres a beauty in both of these options. Mainly preference but either one would be REALLY nice to have
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #5  
ak's Avatar
ak
Retired Mod
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,230
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles (Downey), California, US
Rep Power: 0
ak can only hope to improve
Engine Swap S/R

turbo will give us what... 200hp at the most? Plus it needs to cool down, maintenance, etc...
True the BOV would be nice... but it's all about power!
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #6  
whitecivicxs2's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: chino hills, California, US
Rep Power: 0
whitecivicxs2 is an unknown quantity at this point
TURBO cause you get more attention...... when people hear vrooooooooooom pppppppppphhhhhhhhhhhssssssssss people will turn around.... unlike your intake exhaust.... just my opinion vrooommmm pshhhhhhhhhh pshhhhhhhh sweeeeeeetttttttt
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #7  
CivicSouldjaEX's Avatar
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,867
Likes: 0
From: Diamond Bar, CA
Rep Power: 359
CivicSouldjaEX will become famous soon enoughCivicSouldjaEX will become famous soon enough
I personally like the sound of vtec on a dohc. and if a 7th gen did that then it have my attention.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #8  
VNlilMAN's Avatar
The Standard One
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,659
Likes: 1
From: City of Angels, California, US
Rep Power: 416
VNlilMAN will become famous soon enoughVNlilMAN will become famous soon enough
even if i had a turbo you wouldnt be able to hear it cause of my system thumpin ... well only if i had my system.. i will soon tho...
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #9  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
turbo will kill your engine after a couple of years also. type s is the best way to go, this guy in wesco is selling engine/tranny/ecu for 3500 with less then 2k on it i think at marketplace....type r you'll need octane booster everytime you drive it cuz its 100 octane, all you get is 20 more hp max and a type R signature engine...but the type s is the true type r engine for the civic so its up to, either way its gonna be 3-4g for typeS or turbo....but engine swap youll need mount and electric stuff done...hondata or something does the electric for hasport....good luck
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #10  
JDMCIVIC's Avatar
Thread Starter
JDM WHORE!!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 0
From: LA (SGV), California, US
Rep Power: 301
JDMCIVIC will become famous soon enough
How about the best of both worlds, we get a swap and throw a turbo in it. thats like 300+hp...hahahh..
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2002
  #11  
94civicsedan's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
From: San Diego/El Cajon, California, US
Rep Power: 0
94civicsedan is an unknown quantity at this point
supercharger??
Engine swap with an electric BOV [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #12  
2k2civic's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 0
From: LA, California, US
Rep Power: 0
2k2civic should not be trusted2k2civic should not be trusted
Quote
[hr]Originally posted by: JenVII
turbo will kill your engine after a couple of years also.[hr]
I'm not trying to flame, but how can you say a turbo will kill your engine after a couple of years? Properly tuned, that turbo won't affect how long your car is good for. How about turbo saabs and volvos that have been running for 20 years with hardly any problems?
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #13  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
well those cars are made for turbo...the engines is able to substain the boost...our cars arent, after turbo you'll need a whole bunch of stuff, from pistons to other stuff. im saying turbo on stock engine will kill the engine...nothing can last if it wasnt engineered for it the first time around. type r engine isnt made for turbo, but you can do it though, also with the typeS. if you want a strong engine with good life, just go motor type s with intake.headers.exhaust system.etc...
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #14  
WorldsSlowestEm2's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,525
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, California, US
Rep Power: 317
WorldsSlowestEm2 will become famous soon enough
then again, a type s motor wasnt made for our 7th gen civics or else they'd come equiped with one. Im pretty sure a type s swapped into a 7th Gen wouldnt be as strong as a rsx type s unless it straight up bolts in. Theres probably some micky mousing involved. But then again, you are experimenting. Im not saying that its a bad i dea, im just saying that you might not get the full potential of the motor. It can go from instalation and all. THeres always a pro and cons to everything.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #15  
WorldsSlowestEm2's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,525
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, California, US
Rep Power: 317
WorldsSlowestEm2 will become famous soon enough
Same hting wiht Nos yo, you cant just throw a bottle in and expect to be fast, you got to build your internals or what not. So both the swap and turb would probably take a lot of work and maintenance but hey, if u got the time and money, more power to ya. All i could say is, either or, it would be ssiiiiiiiiiiicccckkkk!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #16  
ChiFroBoy's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, California, US
Rep Power: 0
ChiFroBoy is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote
[hr]Originally posted by: SurfinTower20nBC
then again, a type s motor wasnt made for our 7th gen civics or else they'd come equiped with one. Im pretty sure a type s swapped into a 7th Gen wouldnt be as strong as a rsx type s unless it straight up bolts in. Theres probably some micky mousing involved. But then again, you are experimenting. Im not saying that its a bad i dea, im just saying that you might not get the full potential of the motor. It can go from instalation and all. THeres always a pro and cons to everything.[hr]
ummm actually i thought the subframe from the RSX simply just bolts up. infact if you look carefully the cup shaped plates that the engine bolts onto are indetical mirrors on the civic and the rsx.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #17  
VNlilMAN's Avatar
The Standard One
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,659
Likes: 1
From: City of Angels, California, US
Rep Power: 416
VNlilMAN will become famous soon enoughVNlilMAN will become famous soon enough
well a turbo wasnt meant for our cars either.. and i dont think there is any "mickey mousing" done.. you do have to move things around and such but i dont think theres anything you take out that reduces the power...
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #18  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
well for thing the type s in our car would be too power and yank on the car too hard, you'll probably need 4 piston brakes...supensions, sway bars, strut bars the works, to keep a lighter car down so the engine and call on the tires correctly, well anything that is not stock will lead to pros and cons, but if you do it right, it will be a good drive and a good 3-4g investment.
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2002
  #19  
VNlilMAN's Avatar
The Standard One
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,659
Likes: 1
From: City of Angels, California, US
Rep Power: 416
VNlilMAN will become famous soon enoughVNlilMAN will become famous soon enough
Quote
[hr]Originally posted by: JenVII
well for thing the type s in our car would be too power and yank on the car too hard, you'll probably need 4 piston brakes...supensions, sway bars, strut bars the works, to keep a lighter car down so the engine and call on the tires correctly, well anything that is not stock will lead to pros and cons, but if you do it right, it will be a good drive and a good 3-4g investment.[hr]
too much power? whats that? no such thing in my books... and no you wouldnt need new brakes or suspension.. example.. you go 100mph with our stock and with the type s engine.. brakings still going to be the same(well besides the difference due to slight weight difference). suspension... i dont see how its going to help either
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2002
  #20  
JDMCIVIC's Avatar
Thread Starter
JDM WHORE!!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 0
From: LA (SGV), California, US
Rep Power: 301
JDMCIVIC will become famous soon enough
I know for a fact that my bro swapped a B18c5 in his car and it gives him a lot of trouble. After all he did it with his friends and there were some micky mousing involved, but with different motors there will always be some type of problems. I was thinking in the future I am going to go for the internal setup and then throw in a turbo(BOV sound..lol), that would be satisfying enough for me..hahhah... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2002
  #21  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
type-s with FP package got a better 1/4 mile and 0-60 time after the Factory Package was put in (supension work from the dealer FP) Look at a normal civic and a civic si (6th gen) see if the suspension and brakes are both the same. they are different for a reason. the SI is lower and have larger wheel base with better brake system. you can't put a 200 hp engine in a car designed for a 120ish hp car/chasis/supension/brake system. braking is not going to bee the same because the engine is pulling alot harder because its a bigger engine with bigger torque. and yanking means the engine will just be running hard but no supension work, you cant keep the car on the ground and the wheels on the ground as much as possible to get the most hp to the wheel. supension will also hold everything tight and stiff the car won't drag when you go for tight turns, lets just say the more tire on the ground means more power being pushed off and not wasted. if you could just put a huge engine into a light car, dont you think some1 had done it already, no matter how light, it has to be heavy enough to keep the car down for the best hp gain, power that is out of control is no power at all.
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2002
  #22  
VNlilMAN's Avatar
The Standard One
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,659
Likes: 1
From: City of Angels, California, US
Rep Power: 416
VNlilMAN will become famous soon enoughVNlilMAN will become famous soon enough
well hookin up the suspension on any car will help cornering and such. and yes si's have better brakes and suspension but i doubt its cause of the engine.. its just to make the car better overall... i still fail to see how your going to need any suspension mods cause as i said, the cars not going to know the different between going 100mph with stock engine and 100mph with the type-s engine. when people get prelude engines in past gen civics, they dont always upgrade the brakes or suspension.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2002
  #23  
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
because yours wasnt made that kinda power...safety/performance issue thats all
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2002
  #24  
XtremeJM's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,218
Likes: 0
From: Corona, California
Rep Power: 0
XtremeJM is an unknown quantity at this point
Where is HTOWN??
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2002
  #25  
JDMCIVIC's Avatar
Thread Starter
JDM WHORE!!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 0
From: LA (SGV), California, US
Rep Power: 301
JDMCIVIC will become famous soon enough
I was actually thinking about H-town's swap when I wrote this thread. hahah..seems like he swapped and then disappeared off the face of the planet, probably having fun all day with his swapped out civic....hahah
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2002
  #26  
ak's Avatar
ak
Retired Mod
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,230
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles (Downey), California, US
Rep Power: 0
ak can only hope to improve
Htown is in Texas

Low profile guy, doesn't like to show-off his stuff.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2002
  #27  
bluelight's Avatar
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,090
Likes: 0
From: Arcadia, California, US
Rep Power: 0
bluelight is an unknown quantity at this point
i'd like to turbo my car someday...just whenever i get crazy enough to do it...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
mikevtec
Engine Performance Modifications
2
May 3, 2015 01:36 PM
cloudguy
7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005
1
Apr 28, 2015 05:02 AM
shawe90
Engine Performance Modifications
12
Apr 14, 2015 07:10 PM
robbclark1
General Automotive Discussion
5
Dec 12, 2001 12:18 PM
supercivic01
South
0
Nov 30, 2001 11:27 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:02 AM.