my 2001 civic ex vs 2000 civic si
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Originally posted by GreenGoblin
It was a stock si.
i have done hp intake, hp header, 2 and quarter pipping from header to exhaust. just to let you guys know, that u guys underestimate our cars. i have had alot of people say that our cars our fast. either u guys don't know anything about your cars or you guys just don't know how to race your car.
It was a stock si.
i have done hp intake, hp header, 2 and quarter pipping from header to exhaust. just to let you guys know, that u guys underestimate our cars. i have had alot of people say that our cars our fast. either u guys don't know anything about your cars or you guys just don't know how to race your car.
i would have disbelieved this story if i had not beat a modded si in my ex. thing is he was only shifting at 7k rpm like me. driver??
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Thats just plain ignorant. That person didnt drive very well obviously. I dont care what you have on your car, you shoulda got owned by the Si. Espically that year model
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**** the si aint sh_t I raced one on the freeway on my way to work and i kept right next to him. then again i have cold air and header maybe he was stock but still he had DOHC Vtec. And all i have is a sohcvtec EX. all i know is ifelt good the rest of the day even if no one belives me.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by GreenGoblin
just on question, by any chance do u guys know how much horsepower the si has to the wheel. From what i heard its about 130-140. We have what 115-120. theirs not that big of a difference in hp.
just on question, by any chance do u guys know how much horsepower the si has to the wheel. From what i heard its about 130-140. We have what 115-120. theirs not that big of a difference in hp.
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LOL sure dude....................... 
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Rep Power: 303 At least give the guy some credit I mean the SI does have more horsepower and torque and overall responds better in mods than our car but I mean I guess it all depends on the driver and how about if the guy was just playing the guy but green goblin thought it was a race and won.
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Rep Power: 0 The 99-00 has NO torque. In fact, in torque #s it's equivalent to an 7th Gen EX Civic at the crank.
And wheel HP in our cars is nowhere near 120. Try 108-110.
A completely stock Si losing? You would have to prove some kind of flaw in his driving or his car. I could see a disadvantage if he had 17s on.
EDIT: Torque in 99-00 Si is actually 111 @7,000 RPMs. My car knowledge must be deteriorating.
And wheel HP in our cars is nowhere near 120. Try 108-110.
A completely stock Si losing? You would have to prove some kind of flaw in his driving or his car. I could see a disadvantage if he had 17s on.
EDIT: Torque in 99-00 Si is actually 111 @7,000 RPMs. My car knowledge must be deteriorating.
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127HP....FF cars lose 15% hp from flywheel to the wheels which mean the EM has 107.95 WHP
according to the concept EM, they got 170hp out of our motor "through a custom high-flow intake manifold,
a stock engine head that has been ported, polished and decked,
a custom exhaust header, a large 2-inch exhaust system and a sport muffler."
( http://www.streettuners.com/2002_mod...e_xr/page1.htm )
the si isnt the greatest car, but it isnt slow. unless u did some serious mods to ur motor, its a bit hard for me to believe u beat a SI
127HP....FF cars lose 15% hp from flywheel to the wheels which mean the EM has 107.95 WHP
according to the concept EM, they got 170hp out of our motor "through a custom high-flow intake manifold,
a stock engine head that has been ported, polished and decked,
a custom exhaust header, a large 2-inch exhaust system and a sport muffler."
( http://www.streettuners.com/2002_mod...e_xr/page1.htm )
the si isnt the greatest car, but it isnt slow. unless u did some serious mods to ur motor, its a bit hard for me to believe u beat a SI
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127HP....FF cars lose 15% hp from flywheel to the wheels which mean the EM has 107.95 WHP
according to the concept EM, they got 170hp out of our motor "through a custom high-flow intake manifold,
a stock engine head that has been ported, polished and decked,
a custom exhaust header, a large 2-inch exhaust system and a sport muffler."
( http://www.streettuners.com/2002_mod...e_xr/page1.htm )
the si isnt the greatest car, but it isnt slow. unless u did some serious mods to ur motor, its a bit hard for me to believe u beat a SI
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127HP....FF cars lose 15% hp from flywheel to the wheels which mean the EM has 107.95 WHP
according to the concept EM, they got 170hp out of our motor "through a custom high-flow intake manifold,
a stock engine head that has been ported, polished and decked,
a custom exhaust header, a large 2-inch exhaust system and a sport muffler."
( http://www.streettuners.com/2002_mod...e_xr/page1.htm )
the si isnt the greatest car, but it isnt slow. unless u did some serious mods to ur motor, its a bit hard for me to believe u beat a SI
. We have what 115-120. theirs not that big of a difference in hp.
according to the concept EM, they got 170hp out of our motor "through a custom high-flow intake manifold,
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It's also pretty hard to believe that any 4-cylinder engine would obtain 43 horsepower by adding i/h/e along with a port and polish job. Maybe a V8, but not an I4
It's also pretty hard to believe that any 4-cylinder engine would obtain 43 horsepower by adding i/h/e along with a port and polish job. Maybe a V8, but not an I4
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FF has a 15% drivetrain loss
FR has a 18% loss
AWD has a 22% loss
ya ur right rsxtc it is hard to believe how they got 170hp out of I/H/E ported, polished and decked, with intake manifold.
i was just quoteing what they said on the site. hehe
FF has a 15% drivetrain loss
FR has a 18% loss
AWD has a 22% loss
ya ur right rsxtc it is hard to believe how they got 170hp out of I/H/E ported, polished and decked, with intake manifold.
i was just quoteing what they said on the site. hehe
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from what i know
FF has a 15% drivetrain loss
FR has a 18% loss
AWD has a 22% loss
ya ur right rsxtc it is hard to believe how they got 170hp out of I/H/E ported, polished and decked, with intake manifold.
i was just quoteing what they said on the site. hehe
from what i know
FF has a 15% drivetrain loss
FR has a 18% loss
AWD has a 22% loss
ya ur right rsxtc it is hard to believe how they got 170hp out of I/H/E ported, polished and decked, with intake manifold.
i was just quoteing what they said on the site. hehe
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Rep Power: 0 I beat an si on the freeway 2000, we were dead even I think was ahead of him like maybe a foot or something but then he slowed down and exited off the freeway to get his stop lol. I would have smoked him anyways.
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Rep Power: 0 A car's acceleration in a given gear will follow the TORQUE curve EXACTLY. The 7th gen EX weighs slightly less than the 6th gen SI and also has more torque (3 ft/lb). But due to the fact that the SI has more aggressive gearing and that it's torque peak is at high rpm's (7000) the SI can do more work over time. This is the reason why its HP rating is significantly higher. HP= TQ*RPM/5252. In an eggshell, the SI is faster stock for stock because it can make power closer to redline, not because it pulls harder, per se. So with an EX with bolt-ons it's more of a driver's race, assuming the SI is stock. This article should help.
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Rep Power: 0 roll on race with 7thgen Ex...
That's me racing a 7th gen. I'm not stock, but let me remind you that a 6th gen Si has a better top end than me...If you won, it's simply because the driver was incompetent. And to the guys who said that they beat an Si on the highway..puh-lease....that is complete BS...complete and utter BS. An Si will absolutley SLAUGHTER an EX on the expressway...This coming from a previous 6th Gen EX owner....
That's me racing a 7th gen. I'm not stock, but let me remind you that a 6th gen Si has a better top end than me...If you won, it's simply because the driver was incompetent. And to the guys who said that they beat an Si on the highway..puh-lease....that is complete BS...complete and utter BS. An Si will absolutley SLAUGHTER an EX on the expressway...This coming from a previous 6th Gen EX owner....
A rsx-s won't get 43 hp with i/h/e. Some rsx owners would like to believe that it does though.
Baseline dyno for an rsx varies from 170-175. Most power i've seen on a N/A rsx-s is about 215-220 whp. (edo from Clubrsx)
That's with i/h/e, ITR cams, and Hondata ECU flash. Not your average bolt-ons and port/polish job.
Baseline dyno for an rsx varies from 170-175. Most power i've seen on a N/A rsx-s is about 215-220 whp. (edo from Clubrsx)
That's with i/h/e, ITR cams, and Hondata ECU flash. Not your average bolt-ons and port/polish job.
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I know for a fact that the D16 (6th gen) responds very well to mods..I don't think that the 7th gen D17 does though...I know when I'd race an Si in my 99 Ex (5 speed, CAI/Header/Full exhaust/bbk 62mm throttle body, etc..) I'd be even with the Si untill about 65-70ish, at which point he'd not walk, but steadily run away from me. Wasn't even close on the expressway. Not only did I not have the power, but I was at a serious gearing disadvantage. Not as bad in the Neon, although, I'll still probobly loose to an Si at 120+ due to the under geared Neon tranny... :-/
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roll on race with 7thgen Ex...
roll on race with 7thgen Ex...
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Yeah..I was racing Greg.. ;-)
Did you see the other vids of us? If not I can post some links for you..
Uh oh..he was telling you about me? Crap...good things I hope right? "yeah, I'm crashing at this guy's house that drives a slow purple Neon.."
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Sounds like you guys had fun! Next time maybe! I'll be at Nopi for sure, just like last year..and I'd assume Greg will be there too..
Did you see the other vids of us? If not I can post some links for you..
Uh oh..he was telling you about me? Crap...good things I hope right? "yeah, I'm crashing at this guy's house that drives a slow purple Neon.."
LOL
Sounds like you guys had fun! Next time maybe! I'll be at Nopi for sure, just like last year..and I'd assume Greg will be there too..
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Rep Power: 413 Make a new thread with all the vids so we can talk about them. He was sticking up for you since most of us had a bad taste in our mouth because of all the civic vs. neon argument that happen on this board.
I'll be at NOPI this year just like i was last year too.
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I know for a fact that the D16 (6th gen) responds very well to mods..I don't think that the 7th gen D17 does though...
I know for a fact that the D16 (6th gen) responds very well to mods..I don't think that the 7th gen D17 does though...
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Originally posted by S2000man01
I know you meant B16 for the 6th gen.
I know you meant B16 for the 6th gen.
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Rep Power: 0 why the hell does every nut swinging ricer on CRSX claim the highest Hp and lowest ETs for the RSX like its actually NORMAL? 95% Of those people arent out of the 15s/ high 14s even with all those mods.
