Honda Civic Racing: Drift/Drag/AutoX/Time Attack There are different setups needed if you are using your civic for drifting, drag or track racing

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It's funny hearing all this coming from a civic forum haha. It used to be ppl complaining about ppl in their civics cutting ppl off and what not now it's evolved (maybe degraded) into srt drivers lol. I can't hate on them my friend has a 330whp/320tq that hands my gsr hatch it's *** . Then again i use to beat him when he was stock Let the bashing continue!
Nice kill Hondaluver, have you raced a sti from a roll yet? It should be a nice match for ya.

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don't even bother, sti's are slow from a roll, you will have no problem walking him
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those bitches are fast, i have driven one. i did a awd burn out the first time i drove one... lol
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Originally Posted by regub
don't even bother, sti's are slow from a roll, you will have no problem walking him
slow compared to what? they trap 104-105. if that's "slow" from a roll, you better be driving a 12 second LS1.....
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Originally Posted by regub
don't even bother, sti's are slow from a roll, you will have no problem walking him
They are not slow. I have tried to race one on the freeway and dammn that beast took off.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
slow compared to what? they trap 104-105. if that's "slow" from a roll, you better be driving a 12 second LS1.....

Sorry to disapoint you but i don't have a 12 second Camaro or Vette and i have never ran the 1/4 either but i have out ran quiet a few sti's don't know if they where stock or not but none the less they are sti's. well just in case you are wondering, i have seen ppl with the identical setup as i have run
11's. wheather you guys believe it or not, i could care less. and since he's got a swapped k24 in his light chassis em2, he should have no problem walking a freaking sti on the highway, don't get me wrong, those things are "QUICK" but not fast, they are a blast to take to the mountains but they are no highway demons, and to yourinmyw0rld you probably have the stock d17. sorry those things are only good for gas not going fast. and even if it's modded, you still can't really make power out of it, not even boosting.

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Originally Posted by regub
Sorry to disapoint you but i don't have a 12 second Camaro or Vette and i have never ran the 1/4 either but i have out ran quiet a few sti's don't know if they where stock or not but none the less they are sti's. well just in case you are wondering, i have seen ppl with the identical setup as i have run
11's. wheather you guys believe it or not, i could care less. and since he's got a swapped k24 in his light chassis em2, he should have no problem walking a freaking sti on the highway, don't get me wrong, those things are "QUICK" but not fast, they are a blast to take to the mountains but they are no highway demons, and to yourinmyw0rld you probably have the stock d17. sorry those things are only good for gas not going fast. and even if it's modded, you still can't really make power out of it, not even boosting.
sorry, am I missing something here?

what is -your- definition of fast? ... less than 1% of the population has a TT lingenfelter equivalent that they can brag about, so you have to put things into perspective.
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well to put it in simpler terms, sti's will launch like a bat out of hell off the line and in the mid range turning corners and what not, that makes them quick in short sprints, but once you get them up in the top end, they start to fall flat on their face, that is why they have such low trap speeds. and i'm pretty sure hondaluver wasn't planning on racing an sti from stop light to stop light but more like a spirited highway run.
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mmy car is not light, i have full interior, those other cars that run a 11 at the track are stripped and weight about 1900 pounds(w/o a driver) i need to weigh my car, but i know i weight over 2600 pounds...
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Originally Posted by regub
you probably have the stock d17. sorry those things are only good for gas not going fast. and even if it's modded, you still can't really make power out of it, not even boosting.
Uhmmm..... did you notice his name? S2000man01, you could guess from that alone he has an S2000, and while it's close to stock, he has some very well thoughtout mods that help him greatly on almost any type of racing situation.
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Originally Posted by regub
well to put it in simpler terms, sti's will launch like a bat out of hell off the line and in the mid range turning corners and what not, that makes them quick in short sprints, but once you get them up in the top end, they start to fall flat on their face, that is why they have such low trap speeds. and i'm pretty sure hondaluver wasn't planning on racing an sti from stop light to stop light but more like a spirited highway run.
Well, this is true, the AWD system kills them up high, but generally STi (or STI if it's newwer) doesn't fall on it's face untill somewhere around 125 or 130, which by that time they are generally well past you. And I don't race that fast on public roads any more, they just aren't made well enough for that speed IMO.
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Uhmmm..... did you notice his name? S2000man01, you could guess from that alone he has an S2000, and while it's close to stock, he has some very well thoughtout mods that help him greatly on almost any type of racing situation.

did you even bother reading a couple words before i specifically said [B]yourinmyw0rld[B] you probably have a stock d17. it is probably an honest mistake but before you go around trying to prove ppl wrong, please read carefully before you make your self look like a dummy. by the way just in case you where interested i would pass an STi by 90mph. never raced and STI but none the less those things are quick.
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Originally Posted by regub
did you even bother reading a couple words before i specifically said [B]yourinmyw0rld[B] you probably have a stock d17. it is probably an honest mistake but before you go around trying to prove ppl wrong, please read carefully before you make your self look like a dummy. by the way just in case you where interested i would pass an STi by 90mph. never raced and STI but none the less those things are quick.
okay, I thought you may have a modded mustang gt or something along those lines ... but looking at your profile ...

you passing an sti by 90 mph? ... hell no.

a very prominent member on here has a k20a-r, weight reduction, cai, img, lightweight rims (ssrs) and he ran dead even with a stock sti until about 85. I don't think your k20a3 would even get close, sorry to say.

of course your heavyass adr rims and custom dual exhaust must give you some mad hp, hm?
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Originally Posted by regub
and since he's got a swapped k24 in his light chassis em2, he should have no problem walking a freaking sti on the highway
and your basis for this statement is what?? you just make this statement as if we're all supposed to believe it. (even though you're wrong)
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Originally Posted by regub
well to put it in simpler terms, sti's will launch like a bat out of hell off the line and in the mid range turning corners and what not, that makes them quick in short sprints, but once you get them up in the top end, they start to fall flat on their face, that is why they have such low trap speeds. and i'm pretty sure hondaluver wasn't planning on racing an sti from stop light to stop light but more like a spirited highway run.
104-105 is a low trap speed? compared to what? the 101 that hondaluver traps? lol. good logic there.
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Originally Posted by Sick Cycle
okay, I thought you may have a modded mustang gt or something along those lines ... but looking at your profile ...

you passing an sti by 90 mph? ... hell no.

a very prominent member on here has a k20a-r, weight reduction, cai, img, lightweight rims (ssrs) and he ran dead even with a stock sti until about 85. I don't think your k20a3 would even get close, sorry to say.

of course your heavyass adr rims and custom dual exhaust must give you some mad hp, hm?
i agree.

on a side note, regub, do you have any dyno sheets or timeslips?
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Originally Posted by regub
did you even bother reading a couple words before i specifically said [B]yourinmyw0rld[B] you probably have a stock d17. it is probably an honest mistake but before you go around trying to prove ppl wrong, please read carefully before you make your self look like a dummy. by the way just in case you where interested i would pass an STi by 90mph. never raced and STI but none the less those things are quick.
I'm sure youinmyw0rld will chime in but his d17 isn't really stock. Anyways dude I don't know what your trying to prove but a sti is not the fastest thing in the world but figure you say the civic so lightweight. AWD vs FWD w/ torque so less traction to make up for the weigh. It evens out in the end. Saying an sti is slow is saying an m3 is slow. (Both run close to low-mid 13). Your only comparing 1/4 times anyways how whats the difference between a 13 second wrx or civic. But i do agree 13s are a bit slow. 13s and under the playing field gets fun.
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Originally Posted by regub
did you even bother reading a couple words before i specifically said [B]yourinmyw0rld[B] you probably have a stock d17. it is probably an honest mistake but before you go around trying to prove ppl wrong, please read carefully before you make your self look like a dummy. by the way just in case you where interested i would pass an STi by 90mph. never raced and STI but none the less those things are quick.
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Originally Posted by Sick Cycle
okay, I thought you may have a modded mustang gt or something along those lines ... but looking at your profile ...

you passing an sti by 90 mph? ... hell no.

a very prominent member on here has a k20a-r, weight reduction, cai, img, lightweight rims (ssrs) and he ran dead even with a stock sti until about 85. I don't think your k20a3 would even get close, sorry to say.

of course your heavyass adr rims and custom dual exhaust must give you some mad hp, hm?

did i forget to mention, i don't only own an em2 with an A3 but i also own an ep3 with a supercharged A2?! musta slipped my mind. but what ever i got nothing to prove to any of you. if you still don't believe me, look me up at ephatch.com i still got the same user name.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
and your basis for this statement is what?? you just make this statement as if we're all supposed to believe it. (even though you're wrong)

of course i'm wrong, what do i know right?!!! i got a slow car. i don't talk out of my a$$ all that i've said in this thread is based on my own experience, i was making the same hp with less torque on my ep when i out ran an sti. that's why i said he should have no problem walking away from one.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
104-105 is a low trap speed? compared to what? the 101 that hondaluver traps? lol. good logic there.

damn, we got some ppl that just like to think they are right, that or they just like making their own logic up. when the hell did i say he would beat an sti on the track??!! if you can find where, then i'll eat my words!! if you read carefully and think for a min instead of just babbling on. you would realize that i said on the freeway. so yes it was a pretty good logic. genius
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
i agree.

on a side note, regub, do you have any dyno sheets or timeslips?

i guess ppl on this board don't like to read, i said previously that i've never been to the track but if you give me your email addy i'll send you my dyno sheet before i built my engine.
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Originally Posted by XxJDMCivicxX
I'm sure youinmyw0rld will chime in but his d17 isn't really stock. Anyways dude I don't know what your trying to prove but a sti is not the fastest thing in the world but figure you say the civic so lightweight. AWD vs FWD w/ torque so less traction to make up for the weigh. It evens out in the end. Saying an sti is slow is saying an m3 is slow. (Both run close to low-mid 13). Your only comparing 1/4 times anyways how whats the difference between a 13 second wrx or civic. But i do agree 13s are a bit slow. 13s and under the playing field gets fun.

WOW!! this is probably the last time i will post on this thread because ppl just keep asking the same q's over and over. like you said your self, they will even out at the end. that is because sti's will eventually run out of grunt to pull their heavy behinds in the long run. unlike a lighter chassis civic with 230 whp to keep pulling it strong. and about the m3, well it's the same reason an m3 will beat an sti in the higher speeds. TOP END!! and i have never been comparing 1/4 mile times. you guys where the ones throwing in 1/4 times and what not. what you guys don't under stand is that the thread starter was speaking of racing an sti on the street not the track. but i guess this will be a never ending battle so just so you guys can feel better.....an sti is the fastest car in the world!! hope you guys are happy.
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Originally Posted by regub
of course i'm wrong, what do i know right?!!! i got a slow car. i don't talk out of my a$$ all that i've said in this thread is based on my own experience, i was making the same hp with less torque on my ep when i out ran an sti. that's why i said he should have no problem walking away from one.
based off your own experience. fair enough. however, realize that at 100-101 traps, that is by no means enough to "not have a problem with an STi on the freeway". and yes, trap speed is an excellent gauge as to how a car performs on a roll on the freeway.
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Originally Posted by regub
damn, we got some ppl that just like to think they are right, that or they just like making their own logic up. when the hell did i say he would beat an sti on the track??!! if you can find where, then i'll eat my words!! if you read carefully and think for a min instead of just babbling on. you would realize that i said on the freeway. so yes it was a pretty good logic. genius
i said trap speed because it applies to freeway speed rolls. as i have previously stated.
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WOW!! this is probably the last time i will post on this thread because ppl just keep asking the same q's over and over. like you said your self, they will even out at the end. that is because sti's will eventually run out of grunt to pull their heavy behinds in the long run. unlike a lighter chassis civic with 230 whp to keep pulling it strong.
they don't turn into geo metros at 100mph. in case you didn't notice, the STi still has better gearing and power for speeds even above 100mph compared to the 230whp civic you are referring to.
and about the m3, well it's the same reason an m3 will beat an sti in the higher speeds. TOP END!!
an M3 doesn't need the top end to beat an STi. an M3 is just as fast as the STi if not faster from a stop. from a roll, even starting at 20mph, forget it... it's ALL M3.

and i have never been comparing 1/4 mile times. you guys where the ones throwing in 1/4 times and what not. what you guys don't under stand is that the thread starter was speaking of racing an sti on the street not the track. but i guess this will be a never ending battle so just so you guys can feel better.....an sti is the fastest car in the world!! hope you guys are happy.
a race on the street means anything can happen. including the slower car being the winner. anyone who argues that is stupid. but for someone to come on here and blatently state something like "his car will have no problem eating up STi's from a freeway roll" is just uninformed. considered yourself informed.
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Originally Posted by regub
did i forget to mention, i don't only own an em2 with an A3 but i also own an ep3 with a supercharged A2?! musta slipped my mind. but what ever i got nothing to prove to any of you. if you still don't believe me, look me up at ephatch.com i still got the same user name.
so .... because you put $20+k into your motor, all the sudden STi's are slow?

chip/up/dp/bc/3" exhaust sti will still own you on the track. congradulations.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
they don't turn into geo metros at 100mph. in case you didn't notice, the STi still has better gearing and power for speeds even above 100mph compared to the 230whp civic you are referring to.
an M3 doesn't need the top end to beat an STi. an M3 is just as fast as the STi if not faster from a stop. from a roll, even starting at 20mph, forget it... it's ALL M3.

a race on the street means anything can happen. including the slower car being the winner. anyone who argues that is stupid. but for someone to come on here and blatently state something like "his car will have no problem eating up STi's from a freeway roll" is just uninformed. considered yourself informed.

no one ever said sti's have bad gearing ratios, if you noticed, hondaluver has the rsx 6 spd tranny which "I" belive will have better gear ratios up top. notice how i said that that is waht i believe, i'm not saying they do. another thing, i never said m3 where slow by any means, you where actually the one who said it. you started saying that m3's and sti's where equal on the track, and i took your word for it. but what ever.. and that's exactly what i said too. that and m3 will still pull on an sti..

lastly, you just condradicted your self by saying that the "slow" car can actually come out victorious on a street race. and like i said before, i am only basing this off of personal experience.

and about me spending $20+ on my car,...........god, i wish i could, i'm married and going to school, i can't afford that. but i wish, thanks for the compliment anyways.
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