Honda Civic Racing: Drift/Drag/AutoX/Time Attack There are different setups needed if you are using your civic for drifting, drag or track racing

01 EX vs 02 Lancer (dyno graph added, no bs)

Old Oct 17, 2005
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01 EX vs 02 Lancer (dyno graph added, no bs)

My club held a lapping day at Shannonville MSP, and cruised down with a bunch of cars, an 02 Lancer (base model), I/E, Chipped and My 01 Civic just Intake

Couple laps around the track I saw him right up my ***, so i held him there until the straight, where I walked him like a dog about 2-3 cars and still pulling until about 140 km/h.

He was quite suprised, especially after getting the Mitsu Performance chip installed. Kind of reinforces my dyno @ 124 whp

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Nice...Im pretty sure stock vs stock you'd take him
But with the chip ect.... nice
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uhh, a intake does not give you 124whp
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sorry, 123 whp...correction rate recalibrated 3 times on two seperate occasions. all other cars before and after me were putting down appropriate power


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Wow, nice numbers
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not too shabby it pulls pretty good, maybe this explains why b18b1 LS tegs cant get away from me?
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i dont understand either how 123whp is possible with just an intake. its a d17?
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you have a VERY rare case. I can't explain other than some kind of design flaw or something different. Most people who have that much hp have IHE and more.
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Yes, it's called a factory freak.
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What gear was that pull done in?

Also, are the hp numbers from the original dynoed multiplied by the correction factor or divided?
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hmm.... would you happen to have a baseline dyno? what intake is this? From 110WHP to 123WHP.....
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One thing confuses me about the dyno, why do you say you have a 01 EX but the dyno says SI. Also it says the 01 SI is a 1.7L.....something is missing
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^^^ he's in Canada, their Si is US EX.... EP Si is VERY unlikely to dyno that low.
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One thing confuses me about the dyno, why do you say you have a 01 EX but the dyno says SI. Also it says the 01 SI is a 1.7L.....something is missing
well if he lives in canada their Si is our Ex in the US but other then that
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the dyno means nothing. you have no baseline, so we have no way of determining whether or not your car would have dyno'ed on this dyno at 105whp stock, and the intake gave you the 20whp or not.

i'm willing to bet, if you use the exact same correction factors, and do a run at 123whp, and then take off the intake, this dyno will have you run at least 120whp.

you didn't gain 20whp from an intake on a D17. the laws of physics dictates so. without a baseline, this dyno is useless.
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hey,

thats what the shop owner was explaining to me, is that every motor varies a little bit, but there are "freak motors" that far exceed the manufactures specs, for instance he will know what itr (b18c5) motor has the c5 head or the manually ported b16a head because of the varience in consistency.

also the intake is garbage, some ebay brand 35 dollar special. it will do until the end of the month.

the pull was 4th gear (i have the video kicking here somewhere)

i am going back to the shop soon to find out the question of the correction factor

also, s2kman: it was never my claim that my intake gave me that much power, i simply was astonished that i had such a strong stock motor.

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ya we're not saying its the intake, just something crazy with the car. wow and in 4th gear. I had mine dynoed in 2nd gear with IHE and pnp and it barely makes 100.
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My guess that ur original number is multiplied by the correction factor since 1.022 is the 4th gear's ratio. But to my knowledge, that is what your supposed to do. Im astonished at those numbers.
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^^ i just spoke with the owner tim and he says its multiplied
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its not surprising to me that he beat the lancer. i have a 01s10 that makes less than 100whp stock and runs 18's stock. with intake exhaust and pullies i ran side by side with a lancer auto. i even pulled on it slightly twards then end of our run. my best time in that truck was a 17.3 so that tells you something. my friends was driving the lancer
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I freaked when I originally read the first thread. No Way he made that much power I'm close but not that close. I have i/h/e and VFAC II and I'm barely at 114hp and 108 tq. Not even a freak can do that. Dont mean to steal ur thunder but just didnt know where those numbers came until ur last post. wheeeeeew.

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^ oh man, dont even worry. you should have seen me freak on the owner of the shop because there was no way i believed the dyno.

he had me come back and dyno again on the house, and still sitting at about a 1-2 hp varience. here are a couple other cars from my club that we dyno'd that day..enjoy





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dam 123 huh...i got i/h/e/pulleys/cam gear think thats it and i dynod at 125. wish my was a freak.
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In all honesty those are the kind of gains you expect to get from an air intake on a small block
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now, lets just hope i dont wreck a good thing going by forcing a bit of air into her
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Originally Posted by lovinthevtec
hey,

thats what the shop owner was explaining to me, is that every motor varies a little bit, but there are "freak motors" that far exceed the manufactures specs, for instance he will know what itr (b18c5) motor has the c5 head or the manually ported b16a head because of the varience in consistency.

also the intake is garbage, some ebay brand 35 dollar special. it will do until the end of the month.

the pull was 4th gear (i have the video kicking here somewhere)

i am going back to the shop soon to find out the question of the correction factor

also, s2kman: it was never my claim that my intake gave me that much power, i simply was astonished that i had such a strong stock motor.
no what i'm saying is that I don't think your motor is as strong as you think it is. you've gotten a reading on one dyno. and for all we know, it's simply a dyno that may read higher. if you were to go to another dyno somewhere or maybe even 2 others, you'd see much more consistently realistic numbers.

this didn't happen to be on a dynapack dyno, was it?
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^ no it wasnt a dynopack, its a waterbreak dyno running the software it says on the slip

anyway, im going to be taking it to another dyno, this one being a dyno jet

my buddy with the first dyno in the above post just had his car dyno'd on the dyno jet after being run on the dyno i was on, and he ran within +/- 4 whp, so i know that its not an inaccuracute dyno

i'll post up my second sheet as soon as i go down
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