Redline04

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130am. Was just cruising around before I went home. Trying to find a worthy foe. Ran into a yellow V6 tibby with paper tags. Had his girl in the passenger seat and his friend in the back. I actually saw him last week but he turned before I could entise him. This time we were kinda in a highly dense police zone, but I proceeded to pace him. Each light we hit I would rev a bit but take off slow to let him know my intentions and just to screw with him. So we do this for a few blocks and then I see this side road. So pull ahead and bang a left, he follows Finally someone to race. (been a while) So we hit a light and asks me if I wanna run. Sure I say. So I rev to like 4-4.5k. Light turns green I spin quite a bit but pull out ahead by two cars out the hole and put another two on him buy the time shift into 4th and shut down.
Next light, his boy is like " holy **** what you got done to that thing?" Just I/H/E and pulley I reply. "wow that thing is pretty quick"(I'm thinking wait till the N20 is installed) So he asks to go again. Light turns green I end up bogging(trying not to spin like last run) but put two cars on him by third and held it till I shut down half way though 4th. That was exactly the reaction I was looking for when I decided to go for a stock look. Look on their face was priceless. Now I need to get this damn N20 installed and move on to bigger fish. Can't wait to see the look on the drivers facewhen I beat their SRT-4 or Mustang GT, 350z whoever else I can come across.
Also stomped this guy at work in his Lancer Ralliart by quite a few cars but he said he wasn't ready, so we are gonna set something up since this was just kinda random on the way home from work. I had him by quite a few cars and he wasn't gaining but I won't call it official until we race again. Felt good though cause he's always bashing my car.
In case you haven't seen my new look.
Azenis look alot like stock and especially at night.

Logan3024

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So you raced a tiburon with 3 people in the car and won?

The whole "I smoked this fool with his girl in the passenger seat" theme is getting old.

Vantage

lol, its decent considering new tiburon's are decently quick even if they have 1 more person they should win. Not diggin the SUPER sleeper thing, but then again its always fun to see peoples faces when u smoke them in a stock looking car. i remember the day when i walked on a 1990 GT mustang when my CRX looked stock, the guy didnt know wat to think when i hit 5000 RPM and my tires started to roast in 2nd:O and i lay a patch into 3rd, but o well! good kill

Redline04

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Once again he asked for it (literally). May have been a little closer if he ditched the passengers but I still would have had him. The look on their faces was priceless though. Shocked WTF happened look. I suppose you would have put 4 cars on him too? For a car with 40-50 more HP than me I'd say that's pretty good. Could have been a shitty driver and that may have helped. Dizzle is my #3 most wanted hater. One of these days I'm gonna make it out to Cali and shut you up just like all the other haters.

Michalo187

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Good Job redline! Of he course you can beat a tibby your car is a 15.1 car thats pretty fast for what you have good job yeah your car did look pretty stock if i was in a tibby and lost to that i would be so shocked

S2000man01

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i'd guess it was an auto v6 considering you bogged the 2nd launch but still pulled on him.

nice job, considering the majority of your low 15 times are all because of your launch.


but you're going to need more than nitrous to take out a 350Z or SRT4.

gangrel138

Unless he challenges them to autocross! I took down a 350Z at the local event out here in Germany. I really shouldn't have been able to take a Z but then so did everyone else. This guy came in dead last. Just goes to show you that driver skill can play an important role in any situation.

dre2600

V6 Tiburons are slow as *****, I've seen a few of them that have trouble breaking into the 15s. I once almost beat one in my auto. Civic (back when I had it) because the guy driving it spun his wheels so bad that I gained about 4 car lengths on him before he caught up and passed me.

Redline04

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6spd(probally shitty driver?)
I know that's why I normally don't go from a roll. Cause in most cases I will be outpowered. I'd rather be outskilled on the launch. I am confident that I can launch better than most of the people around here driving faster cars then mine. Which is why I think I could take an Srt-4 or 350z from a dig with the N20 installed. If the 35shot isn't enough the 50 will be. A guy ran 14.3 in his Z last weekend. He's on my hit list. Now I just have to find a weak SRT to prey on .


Yeah they are not anything great, but they should run mid to high 15's stock. And most drivers wouldn't think they would lose to a stock looking civic. There is another guy with I/E that runs low 15's. Supposed to race him but he never showed at the track. Maybe I'll him out tonight since my N20 will not be ready for tonight.(woke up to late and never got my fuel fittings)

S2000man01

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autocross is WAY MORE driver dependent than straight line. mashing the gas is fairly easy unless you're a moron.

autocross is probably 80% driver and 20% car.

S2000man01

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look i know you're a great driver and all, but if you were planning on using nitrous on your launch, you'll have a hard time launching consistently. which means you'll probably only use it once you've hooked up.

and not to burst your bubble. but a 50 shot is only going to get you into high\mid 14's. MAYBE low 14's if you get a spectacular run. you'd need 100 shot at least just to be competitive with something like an SRT4 or 350Z at the track. these are high 13 second cars.

and i dont care what you see a 350Z running or not. don't blame the car for the driver's suckiness. you have to be realistic. you saying you are aiming to take out a 350Z is like me saying I'm aiming at taking out a C5 corvette.

sure it could happen, but in no way is my car faster than that, nor should i even expect to win more than 1 out of 10+ races against that car.

S2000man01

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for what it's worth, i have a friend with a B16 civic Si. He was able to do 15.2's consistently with drag radials on cooler days. he now has a 75 shot wet system and an intake/exhaust. he can muster about a 14.4 or so at best.

and don't forget a reason you may see a car running higher is due to weather/heat/humidity.

your car will be just as affected by weather. on a day where good drivers in 350Z's are running 14.2's, you can expect you'd run 15.4 or 15.5 where you would normally run 15.1.

suthrninca

Are we talking about an 03-04 tibby?

Redline04

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yep
actually probally 05? It was yellow and had paper tags.

S2000 man, No spray off the line for me. I believe Djmota, dizzle and scansel are trapping around the high 90's on a 50 shot. Good for low 14's with a good launch. My car is substantially less weight then theirs(250-400lbs). I am also running better times then them on the motor with my normal street tires. So how can you say I won't run 13's? I am hoping for low 14's with the 35 and high 13's with a 50. You may be right, but now you know where I am coming from. I'll be track testing in a couple weeks so then we'll know for sure .
I'm not saying the dude with the Z was a great driver, but should that be any reason not to run him just so I can say I beat a 350z with my little econo honda(if I win)?

S2000man01

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I know the effects of nitrous. You will never break 13's with just a 50 shot. You'd need at least 75-100 to do that.

a 50 shot of nitrous will NOT take off OVER 1 FULL SECOND on your 1/4 mile time. a 100 shot could do that. but not a 50. and a 75 would be a maybe.

EM2typeflex

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All I got to say is keep your head up man. Good job, don't let nobody hate on the 7thgen.

scansel912

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My best run ever was a 15.97 with bolt ons and no nitrous. I ran a 15.2 with an AWFUL 2.7 60 foot time. I definately think that i can run around a 14.7 or less with a 60 foot of 2.3 or so. If ive done my math correctly that would take off 1.2 seconds from my original time. Taking off more than a second is definately plausible in our cars at least. Many other members for sure have done it on a 50 shot. I would be surprised if Redline04 didn't break into 13's with nitrous.

bOoStEd042dr

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you install ur nitrous yet?

S2000man01

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could you please show me even ONE person who took off an entire second from their 1/4 mile time with just a 50 shot? if many other members have done it, coming up with even one shouldn't be a problem.

scansel912

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After 5 minutes of searching...

Heres one

Scroll down and you'll see the Kjgracing guy ran a 14.4 with a 50 shot. I Believe his best with bolt ons was 15.7 if i remember correctly.

Redline04

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Thank you. Like he said there are other members too.
S2000man JFWY
The track will tell. End discussion.(edit)Cancel that, back on(edit)

Redline04

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Djmota 65 ZEX which = a 50 shot NX
15.7 on motor, 14.2 on juice
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=206978

Dizzle
50shot
(On 18's I believe)Trapped at 94mph good for a mid to high 14
Also says he ran a 16.6 w/out N20 in his profile but I don't know if he had the same mods?
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=200910

so there's four,most of them avg 1.3 sec gain.
Ill see if I can find more

So since I am running a tad bit faster than these guys NA. And the fact that I am a tad lighter so the power to weight ratio will be a bit more. It is my conclusion that I should run times similar to these guys with only a 35 shot, makeing up the 15hp deficit with the two reasons I just stated. Were talking street tires here too. Now I slap on the ol Dr's and there goes another .3 off the clock. Djmota ran DR's and got a 2.2 60ft and ran a 14.2. With a 2.0 he would be in the 13's.

Logan3024

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I dont think 13's is possible even with a 75 shot. I agree with s2000man its gonna take atleast a 100 shot direct port, with a NX maximizer ( for traction issues).


Redline your car IS NOT anywhere near 400 lbs less than me. Removing the interior peices does not add up to even 200 lbs, I just had my WHOLE car apart for painting and i can tell you that the ALL the interior peices including seats and spare is maybe 120 lbs. So where is the extra weight coming from?

And Lastly

Call me a hater if you want but id really question Djmotos 14.2 on a 50 shot. a 50 shot is not gonna improve your times by 1.5 seconds!

Redline04

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Dizzle your trapping 94mph on 18's, if you had a good 60ft you would be running mid 14's on 18's . Your hating on yourslef saying it would take a 100 shot to run 13's. practice your launch, get some smaller wheels and you will be there. My car weighs around 2200, which is why I said 250to 400lbs. Check the link in my profile for a list of everything and how much it weighs.

Logan3024

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Humm, If i wanted 13's id have a turbo not nitrous.

Logan3024

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Even then it will still be hard to hit 13's lol

S2000man01

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lol you've shown me one. one person who took a second off his 1/4 mile. the other guy had a 65 shot.

the 2nd one you posted has nothing showing an ET where he took a full second off. guesstimating based on trap speed proves nothing. even he (dizzle) agrees with me.


you're not going to run 13's with a 50 shot. sorry, it just won't happen.

S2000man01

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DJmotos said he had a 65 shot. However, I doubt he had that. My guess is an 80 shot.

S2000man01

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You have a 200lb. weight reduction. Have you ever actually weighed your car??

I'm not trying to hate. In fact, if you remember, I DEFENDED you before with your n/a runs. But I'm a realistic person, hence the reason I defended you.

And I'm telling you, 13's is not going to happen with a 50 shot. And probably not with a 75 shot either. You're going to need 80-100 shot to do that. I don't know everything, but I've seen enough nitrous equipped cars to know what a 50 shot and 100 shot can do.

Redline04

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Ok I was under the impression that the EX's were around 2600lbs. I was wrong. about 2550=EX and 2450 for LX, so me =200-300lbs less. I will go weigh the car tomorrow to make you happy.
Me running a 35 shot will give me the same power to weight ratio even if there is only a 250lb difference.
2500/150=16.6
2250/135=16.6
everyone is trapping around 94-96mph, which is good for low to mid 14sec with a good 60 ft. I'm running .2-.5 faster NA on street tires and .7-.9 on Drs , so you would think I would do a little better than everyone on the Juice as well. And as I stated they are all running low to mid 14sec trap speeds. I am pretty confident that I can run a low to mid 14 with just a 35shot on Dr's for sure, street tires maybe maybe not. I know I will be bringing the vid cam for sure when I go. Now give me those 13" x7.5 lensos and some cheater slicks that I want and tell me I won't run 13's.
DJmota is running a Zex kit which is rated at the flywheel. So his 65 is = to a NX 50 which is rated at the wheels.