Honda Civic Racing: Drift/Drag/AutoX/Time Attack There are different setups needed if you are using your civic for drifting, drag or track racing

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Old Jun 10, 2005
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My friend has a Laser, which is the same thing as a 1st gen talon tsi. He was runnin 18psi on race gas running 14.00. Those cars can't hook for Sh*t in first gear and 2nd if they are modded. The stock cobalt should be no problem if it runs 14.9 stock and you're close to low 14s.

Mainly.....it all depends on if they can hook up. My dad's friends camero is badass and tuned out the ***. He can only run 14.00 high 13s cause it won't hook up. When i say modded, i mean, headers, intake manifold, port & polish, ignition, cam, reinforced tranny. So just be smart like others have said.
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Well said! I agree. Good luc
Originally Posted by jttegx
ls1... idk, those are very quick cars.

i would pay attention to the 350z, colbalt, and the mustang though.

goodluck and drive safe. btw, if their just cocky @sses, dont bother with those kind of drivers. i hope you know these people and will be a friendly run instead of the import vs domestic local battles. if you are... your getting involved with the wrong crowd
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First i am trying the talon hopefully next week i am thinking of upgrading my fuel system to return fuel system and some rc 440's hopefully with the return system i can put so more power to the ground
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I'm sure you'll get completly walked by the Ls1. Some bone stock ls1's have hit 13.1's or a little lower. With the mods he has and saying he can drive then I would'nt be suprised that he's in the high 12's now. I don't know what year Vette's you raced but maybe on of those had a Ls1 in it so the outcome would be similar to that with the z28.
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The camaro runs 14 flat consistent cause its auto. one vette was a z06 the other vette was a 800 hp beast
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an auto LS1 can do low 13's. 14 flats are with a crappy/crummy driver. are you sure it wasn't a pre-1998 camaro LT1?
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I know for sure its a ls1 but we are talking about 100 degree weather here this is arizona.
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well keep in mind your car will be just as affected if not more by the weather.

if it slows an LS1 by almost a full second in the 1/4 mile, the same, if not worse will happen to you.
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Yeah i know well that mustang with exhaust intake and hypertech is manual and it ran 14.6 Rsx type s run 15.7 with intake and exhaust and then my friends Lt1 firebird ran 14.7 with intake all these were in hot *** weather and first times at the track
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if ur only pushing 180hp i wouldnt go against the guy with the awd talon unless you wanna get roasted.
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welcome to 4 weeks ago. did you find Noah's Ark too?

and roasted? lol. a 10psi 7th gen won't have a problem beating the AWD talon unless the talon has a few mods. the talon runs about 15.0 stock.
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lol base rsx's even with mods r not that quick. I beat one with just sri. Anyways u should be able to beat most of the cars. I would race the camaro etc and all of them just to have fun and see where i stand. Good luck

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also off a roll dont let stock wrx's and evo's fool u. I have seen too many close calls even sometimes off a line to just give up on any front wheel drive turbo
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lol i got caught by the past too
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
so u cant answer any of my questions but expect me to answer all of yours? ur cheap auto wont even take a base rsx even if u had turbo. auto is weak and will never get anywhere with auto unless you spend thousands and thousands of dollars to get that auto to be fast.
actually an automatic thats boosted will beat a manual thats boosted assuming its an even match with the driver but even then its not that hard to put the pedal to the metal in an automatic! now let me explain..... you ever heard of turbo lag?? um yea manuals have it in every gear and wait autos have it at the beginning but dont get it in any other gear cuz the throttle body is constantly open thus causing no loss in boost pressure!!! when in fact every time you shift in a manual the t body closes and then your blowoff valve comes into play to release that pressure within the intake tubing and then when you get back on the gas here comes mr turbo lag to rebuild all the pressure you just lost!!! now i know its not much but comparably witht the same car or even close to the same match up it is my belief and experience that an automatic will beat a manual, now dont get me wron maybe not by much but a win is a win. oh and another thought if your spending the money to boost an rsx your prolly smart enough to get a standalone computer thus programming shift points according to the dyno and you now have perfect shifts consistantly where it is almost near impossible to do in a manual..............now consider yourself re-educated!!!!
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Um, most of the time that automatics are used in drag cars they're used not because the 'throttle body stays open' (??) but because they can simply shift faster than a human being conceivably can.

Barring that, one finds, below built auto-trannys, synchro-less manual transmissions abound.
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Originally Posted by bowofdoom
actually an automatic thats boosted will beat a manual thats boosted assuming its an even match with the driver but even then its not that hard to put the pedal to the metal in an automatic! now let me explain..... you ever heard of turbo lag?? um yea manuals have it in every gear and wait autos have it at the beginning but dont get it in any other gear cuz the throttle body is constantly open thus causing no loss in boost pressure!!! when in fact every time you shift in a manual the t body closes and then your blowoff valve comes into play to release that pressure within the intake tubing and then when you get back on the gas here comes mr turbo lag to rebuild all the pressure you just lost!!! now i know its not much but comparably witht the same car or even close to the same match up it is my belief and experience that an automatic will beat a manual, now dont get me wron maybe not by much but a win is a win. oh and another thought if your spending the money to boost an rsx your prolly smart enough to get a standalone computer thus programming shift points according to the dyno and you now have perfect shifts consistantly where it is almost near impossible to do in a manual..............now consider yourself re-educated!!!!
yeah.... except for the fact that auto civics don't have the gearing advantage manual civics do. thanks for playing though.

auto turbo civic < manual turbo civic

not to mention your whole turbo lag argument.... when you shift a manual car and have your foot off the gas for a split second, the impeller (turbo) doesn't just slow down magically. it continues to spin. so, there is no turbo lag when you shift a manual transmission car.

and program shift points according to the dyno? you don't shift on a dyno.... and when you tune, you're tuning for an rpm range, irregardless of what gear you're in. tuning on the dyno has NOTHING to do with shift points or auto/manual transmissions...

who told you all this crap?

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i think i got dumber. I might go trade my 5 spd in now for an auto
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Well, some of us are auto and we'd like to fool with them, so not everyone can be a hater. I'd like to sell my car sometime so no swaping with me. Plus now I can drive, talk on my phone, eat cheeseburgers and take pictures of ricers with my camera lol =)
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you ever heard of turbo lag?? um yea manuals have it in every gear and wait autos have it at the beginning but dont get it in any other gear cuz the throttle body is constantly open thus causing no loss in boost pressure!!! when in fact every time you shift in a manual the t body closes and then your blowoff valve comes into play to release that pressure within the intake tubing and then when you get back on the gas here comes mr turbo lag to rebuild all the pressure you just lost!!!
Im guessing you have never driven a turbo manual before. The only lag you experience is at the begining and thats assuming your out of your boost range (typical with large turbo cars). However your RPMs don't drop a whole lot when you shift, which means you are more than likely still in boost, thus a slight blip of the throttle will bring you to full boost. There is no horrible turbo lag in every gear. A skilled manual driver can easily avoid lag simply by getting in the right gear.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle
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Originally Posted by Michalo187
The camaro runs 14 flat consistent cause its auto. one vette was a z06 the other vette was a 800 hp beast
If you're talking about any other car, the car being an auto is a big deal. But, With 4th gen f bodies and c5 and up vettes, it doesn't really matter. The times between manual and auto are about .1 seconds. The camaro running 14 flat is due to the driver, not the car.
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle

I haven't heard I G.I.Joe qoute in a while..
You just have to practice hooking up the tires.. I used to spend a hour a week from light to light doing nothing but launching as fast as possible.. and then an hour or 4 shifting as fast as possible.. Practice and knowledge baby!
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i think i got dumber. I might go trade my 5 spd in now for an auto
lol got me thinking the same way
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Originally Posted by bowofdoom
actually an automatic thats boosted will beat a manual thats boosted assuming its an even match with the driver but even then its not that hard to put the pedal to the metal in an automatic! now let me explain..... you ever heard of turbo lag?? um yea manuals have it in every gear and wait autos have it at the beginning but dont get it in any other gear cuz the throttle body is constantly open thus causing no loss in boost pressure!!! when in fact every time you shift in a manual the t body closes and then your blowoff valve comes into play to release that pressure within the intake tubing and then when you get back on the gas here comes mr turbo lag to rebuild all the pressure you just lost!!! now i know its not much but comparably witht the same car or even close to the same match up it is my belief and experience that an automatic will beat a manual, now dont get me wron maybe not by much but a win is a win. oh and another thought if your spending the money to boost an rsx your prolly smart enough to get a standalone computer thus programming shift points according to the dyno and you now have perfect shifts consistantly where it is almost near impossible to do in a manual..............now consider yourself re-educated!!!!
I'm gonna turbo my auto and spank all you clutch pushing pansies once and for all!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by XxJDMCivicxX
well my friends stock GT stang ran 13.9, LS1 Camaro are about the same maybe quicker. So you can base yourself on that till you run at the track.

ROFLMAO. an LS1 F body 6 spd can hit 12s, stock.

seriously though, you have an aftermarket turbo and you list beating a V6 mustang and a sentra in your signature?
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Yeah there are wins aren't they? I haven't had the chance to beat any one faster than that yet
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Ok so how did it turn out with the Talon?? Did you end up racing any of them?? Results?? Be careful of the talon...my buddy has one, he says his is stock too...some people actually fall for it...they dont see the huge front mount, monster exhaust, let alone the friggin monster green under the hood!!!!!!
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No i was going to race him and blown headgasket i am swapping the head to an ex and putting the crower cam and valvesprings i am just waiting for my ex head to get here so i can start
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Originally Posted by T/A
I honestly, don't see you beating the Ls1, mustang gt, or Sti. You might have a shot at the Cobalt SS, and that's probably about it. The Talon is a toss up, could be amazing or total crap.

i beat a stang 05 but it was AUTO...i ran whit 8 psi UNTUNED (ill never do that again) i won by 1 1/2 car, maybe it was the driver, here where i live its small just like nogales where u from michlao and everyone that see me in the vic ask me if is true that i won vs the stang...so im not the only one that knows that lol so i said that is possible .... go ahead and have fun whit ur boosted vic... see ya later bro, and sorry for my english
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Originally Posted by mxcivic
i beat a stang 05 but it was AUTO...i ran whit 8 psi UNTUNED (ill never do that again) i won by 1 1/2 car, maybe it was the driver, here where i live its small just like nogales where u from michlao and everyone that see me in the vic ask me if is true that i won vs the stang...so im not the only one that knows that lol so i said that is possible .... go ahead and have fun whit ur boosted vic... see ya later bro, and sorry for my english
Those 05 Autos are still sick...just like auto LS1's their still crazy fast...
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